5th Wheel Towing with 4X4 Ram

NC Hauler wrote:

45Ricochet wrote:
What is the measurement from the ground to the top of your gate? My 06 is 58" but she squats a good 4" when hitched up.
IIRC NChauler has a 2013 dually 4x4 and his is 58.5", but it only squats about 2". Then I read he put new springs on the RV which most likely raised the 5er a bit. Your numbers don't sound real good as is though. You might try the new higher rated spring first, next I'd be looking at adding a sub frame.
Good Luck

True statements Rick, but having towed this 5er more recently, I believe my truck is squatting about 3" also...I took my 5er up to WVa last Wednesday and I measured distance of top of tire to wheel well and the truck squatted 3", not 2"...my bad on that one. The new spring packs raised my unit "right at" 1"...I now have "just over 6" of clearance between the 5er and the bed rails...I've taken some downhill sharp corners as well as backed 5er up my driveway, (bout like Ricks), level off with 5er first and still have a good 1.5" left to play with...Can't see where I could tow this 5er now and get into trouble with it, (my Reese hitch also pivots fore and aft as well as side to side).

When I put my picture frame adapter in, I had to lower my hitch down one notch to make up for extra added height of the picture frame adapter. My 5er is setting "more level" with this truck than it did the 07.5 Chevy dually and the 2010 and 2012 Ram Dually's...

Jim, These new Rams seem to be growing, my 2014 Megacab 3500 sitting level in the garage is 59.5 " to the top of the tailgate . I would love to be 58" it would really help me get a little more level , can't go down anymore then I am , and still maintain enough clearance between bed ,and trailer. This new truck is about three inches taller then the previous truck , but the fifth wheel pushed down my Ford 350 further then I liked, so I went to air bags to level some, with this new Ram it only sits down a little over 2" ,levels the truck which puts me pretty much at the same level as I was with the ford, but still a little high in front, which I see is pretty common on these new trucks.

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Update with figures and pictures.
Truck Unhooked
40 3/8" Front Wheel Well
42 1/8" Rear Wheel Well

Truck Hooked Up
40 1/2" Front Wheel Well
39 1/8" Rear Wheel Well

Bed Rail Clearance
5 1/2 Front of Trailer
4 1/2" Tail Gate

Trailer Bottom to Ground
23 1/8 Front
17 1/2 Rear
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4wd is high:Ser than 2wd. Get a 2wd, 4wd isn't needed for RVing.

ol Bombero-JC wrote:

diazr2 wrote:
I just used the dexter kit that reverses the axles easy fix as long as they are not already reversed. You'll need another step on your entrance door though.

The above (incorrectly referred to) is called "flipping the axle", and is a LAST resort - and *NOT* the solution of choice!

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Not sure why you feel this is not the method of choice? Results in a four to six inch lift. Many new rigs come with the axles already under the springs. Based on measurements given would give OP about 6" to 7" bed to rail.

Hmmmm that is the same hitch I have too. Just maybe you might have to flip the axles. Like was said sometimes there is some adjustment on the spring shackles but not sure there would be enough to help you since it is only 2=3 inches. Since your truck is still factory and mine has 2 sizes bigger tires and still has 6-8 inches of clearance then it has to be the trailer.... Does your pin have any more adjustment? But that is gonna raise the nose of the trailer.

Chevyman....yeah my rear does squat a lil bit cause my front end has a leveling kit in it. Makes her look good when empty but takes away that butt high attitude Dodge built in. So when I do set the trailer down on her she does squat a little but on level ground it is not too noticeable.

I have an old Coachman 5th I use for hunting and my 05 Dodge 2500 4x4 quad was too high so I flipped the axles. Very easy if you can weld and it fixed the unlevel ride.

prowlerregal wrote:
steelpony5555,yes I did hook up the trailer.That is how I got the measurements.I going to measure the height of the truck hooked and unhooked tomorrow.I'll measure how much it squats when I hook up.My hitch is at it's lowest setting,it's a reese R20.My trailer is not to low,my truck is too dam high.If the truck was level from the factory I don't think I would have so much of a problem.

Good to know. Like I said mine is 58" at the top of gate unloaded, 54" with ~3200 of pin. I have the same hitch but it's at the highest setting but I did tow it around about 2 years with it half way which only gave me 4" of clearance. Now have almost 6" but at any rate not going to help your trailer being level while towing. Have you looked to see if the 5er springs have flattened out? They should have a nice arc to em.
OBTW I believe Jim ( NChauler) has the same hitch also, so it's doable with a old Ram and a new Ram. Depends on the RV is my only deduction from this thread :W

On edit, it is fairly level when hitched up.

steelpony5555,yes I did hook up the trailer.That is how I got the measurements.I going to measure the height of the truck hooked and unhooked tomorrow.I'll measure how much it squats when I hook up.My hitch is at it's lowest setting,it's a reese R20.My trailer is not to low,my truck is too dam high.If the truck was level from the factory I don't think I would have so much of a problem.