ATC 25 ft toy hauler w front bedroom

[Spilot]

Anyone have an ATC 25 ft toy hauler with front bedroom? Seriously considering one to haul my Harley Road King. Wanting to buy shortest trailer possible, but having reservations about a 20 ft with Happi-Jac bed sleeping over the bike. Also can’t decide if the generator/fueling station is worth the $7750? Will be towing with a low mileage 1996 Ford 7.3 diesel 3/4 ton 4 WD. Any words of wisdom from experienced users?

[hvac]

I'm 80% in regions that frequently get under 40 but a above 30 at night. The full factory carpet does the job well but it can get cold on edges not covered. Occasionally some condensation. Works for us,and the durability and worry free construction is comforting. Its a foam spray on from the factory, I'm sure it helps significantly for temps below freezing.

[Spilot]

Anyone with an ATC go with the insulated floor option? Curious if it helps much? Seems an aluminum floor would get pretty cold....

[Spilot]

jkbeaudoin wrote:

hvac wrote:
All glass widows. Metal roof. Genny in front. Quality of cabinet's and no sharp edges and doors.Ramp strength, Fit and finish.

ATC is in this for the long haul. Living lite?? Its still a no wood offering however and that separates it from the pack. 13k is a lot of money. Big decision. Resale value??

I do like the generator location on the ATC better. Also the cabinet strength, location, and abundance. Livin' Lite is either going to stop building aluminum frames, or stop building Quicksilver altogether this year (depending on who you ask), but the vast network of dealers will still service them in the future.

Much of the $13k difference in price is the list of options, and the shipping. They want $3500 to ship it to Oregon, but I could go pick it up for less than 1/2 of that. They also want $7750 for the Onan 5.5kw generator. I can find the same generator brand new online for 1/2 of that. How difficult is it to install? I don't think it would cost $3000-3500 just for installation. The "airline track recessed floor" tie down option is $690, but Quicksilver doesn't even have that. If I take some of that stuff out, and also just have standard white or black paint, the prices of Quicksilver and ATC are much closer.

I keep wondering about resale value also. Is there a strong enough demand for the ATC that you can sell one easily after 5-10 years? Are there enough buyers willing to pay the extra for the lightweight, no rust, no rot option? I know I am. I would buy a used one right now if I could find one, but there are none I can locate in the country. That makes me think it would be easy to sell later, but it probably depends on what's available in the market when you try to sell. I know the majority of buyers want the plush amenities in a wood built TH more than the durability of aluminum, or else there would be more companies building the aluminum.

It's true that I have a big decision. Right now I'm about worn out from doing research for the last several months.

I’m with you on the “worn out from research” on these things. They are no doubt very nice trailers but the cost is crazy high! I’ve been researching them for months also, and no matter how I try to work the options for a relatively small travel trailer they cost more than my first house! For the money they want, one could almost buy two wood built units and use the second for spare parts. The dealers don’t seem interested in entertaining an offer below their listings, but watching inventory nationwide they don’t seem to be flying off the lots either. I’ve previously owned much less expensive trailers and was able to get quite a few good years of use from them with a little TLC, and had no trouble selling them. Probably going to do that again and save some $$$$$!

[hvac]

Its important to know ATC has been building the toy haulers for just a few years. They are known for race car and custom built units. Ill send you a private message on a possible dealer.

[jkbeaudoin]

hvac wrote:
All glass widows. Metal roof. Genny in front. Quality of cabinet's and no sharp edges and doors.Ramp strength, Fit and finish.

ATC is in this for the long haul. Living lite?? Its still a no wood offering however and that separates it from the pack. 13k is a lot of money. Big decision. Resale value??

I do like the generator location on the ATC better. Also the cabinet strength, location, and abundance. Livin' Lite is either going to stop building aluminum frames, or stop building Quicksilver altogether this year (depending on who you ask), but the vast network of dealers will still service them in the future.

Much of the $13k difference in price is the list of options, and the shipping. They want $3500 to ship it to Oregon, but I could go pick it up for less than 1/2 of that. They also want $7750 for the Onan 5.5kw generator. I can find the same generator brand new online for 1/2 of that. How difficult is it to install? I don't think it would cost $3000-3500 just for installation. The "airline track recessed floor" tie down option is $690, but Quicksilver doesn't even have that. If I take some of that stuff out, and also just have standard white or black paint, the prices of Quicksilver and ATC are much closer.

I keep wondering about resale value also. Is there a strong enough demand for the ATC that you can sell one easily after 5-10 years? Are there enough buyers willing to pay the extra for the lightweight, no rust, no rot option? I know I am. I would buy a used one right now if I could find one, but there are none I can locate in the country. That makes me think it would be easy to sell later, but it probably depends on what's available in the market when you try to sell. I know the majority of buyers want the plush amenities in a wood built TH more than the durability of aluminum, or else there would be more companies building the aluminum.

It's true that I have a big decision. Right now I'm about worn out from doing research for the last several months.

[hvac]

All glass widows. Metal roof. Genny in front. Quality of cabinet's and no sharp edges and doors.Ramp strength, Fit and finish.

ATC is in this for the long haul. Living lite?? Its still a no wood offering however and that separates it from the pack. 13k is a lot of money. Big decision. Resale value??

[jkbeaudoin]

hvac,

I'm new here. Just joined so I could do some research and ask questions about the ATC. I'm looking at probably buying an ATC 25' with a front bedroom and living in it for a few months with my wife. It sounds like you've done that with yours.

Before you bought it, did you compare it to the other aluminum TH on the market, Quicksilver? My wife and I have looked at both. ATC seems to be a little higher quality and has a better floor plan, but I think the Quicksilver might be much less expensive. I also hear that Livin' Lite will quit building the Quicksilver soon, so if I decide to buy one of those, I will need to order it soon.

Thanks, John

[hvac]

I sleep often in the h j but it real low. No toys, garage is a living room Works great.

These are long trailers. I think overall our 28 ball to loading ramp 33ft. Due to extended length of v frame for genny. So its one to watch carefully when cornering. I effectonatly call her stretch.

So, shorter the better. We couldn't go smaller, living in it 4 months out of the year.

[Spilot]

LowRyter wrote:
You can get a roll on champion generator for a few 100 $$. You'll only need it to run the air or charge the batteries. Just roll it out when you roll out the bike. Keep a gas can in the truck bed.

you might appreciate a front bedroom when on the road and you want to overnight it without unloading.

The Ford has a good reputation. it should pull a light weight 25 footer.

I have a lightweight 5th wheel, not sure if they make them anymore. But it's easy to hitch and pull. Has a front bedroom.

Thanks. I previously pulled a 24 ft Prowler travel trailer with this truck and seemed to handle it fairly well. Struggling with the idea of an extra $7k for a front bedroom, but also want to be able to sleep in the trailer with the bike inside on occasion and not sure about climbing into the Happi Jac bed over the bike! Seems a 20 ft would easier to pull and maneuver, and better fuel mileage? Without the bedroom and genny I can save $13k!

[hvac]

2015 ram eco diesel. 3.92 rear end. 8 speed. Full air suspension. Andersen wd hitch. Xl cooper tires.

[Spilot]

hvac wrote:
We use ours as travel trailer, the genny is used frequently at Casino parking lots, rest areas etc. It bridges a gap that motorhomes offer by having a self contained aux power with over 30 gallons of fuel. The refueling station, we never use it and I worry about the pump. I don't think you can order a propane genny.

Sounds like the genny’s probably the best way to go. I was considering a portable genny, but that wouldn’t work the best for the situations you describe.

What do you pull your 28 with?

[hvac]

We use ours as travel trailer, the genny is used frequently at Casino parking lots, rest areas etc. It bridges a gap that motorhomes offer by having a self contained aux power with over 30 gallons of fuel. The refueling station, we never use it and I worry about the pump. I don't think you can order a propane genny.

[toddb]

Dirtclods wrote:

It all depends what you like if your off roading it's nice to have the fuel on-board keeping in mind the on-board fuel runs your genny as well. If you don't use a lot of fuel you can always opt for a propane genny too. Another option propane jenny and a fuel station.

We do ride in AZ, but nothing more than 2 5 gal cans can't take care of. We only dry camp and my preference is towards solar and the only thing 120v is the wife's hair dryer.

I'm with you on giving up the cap on the truck, but I'm waiting to see what the floor plan is for the 5r. I pretty much swore off stapled together trailers and the weight of these units is very attractive.

[Spilot]

Fifth wheel is interesting. Never pulled one but hear once you do you will never go back to bumper pull. Hate to give up my truck bed with topper for storage, and truck is also a short box.

[Dirtclods]

toddb wrote:
I was told I could do a genny w/o the fuel station. I see now they are going to offer a 5th wheel so I'm going hold out to see what that entails.

It all depends what you like if your off roading it's nice to have the fuel on-board keeping in mind the on-board fuel runs your genny as well. If you don't use a lot of fuel you can always opt for a propane genny too. Another option propane jenny and a fuel station.