Best All Year Four Seasons Full Time Fifth Wheels

[MeetTheMark]

A true all year, all seasons full time fifth wheel main factor is it has to withstand temps below 0 and above 100 with no issue. Extreme inter rigid construction. Continuous full time living in extreme temps, stand alone house on wheels.
These are the very few, most expensive, heaviest, luxurious "try to play with me" monsters that no other trailer nor fifth comes near.
By actual specs: 40k+ furnaces, 30+ r values and extensive under carriage blown heating (not only just mere heating pads). The largest fifth wheels sheer size and space accommodate what is needed to hold high level specs needed. They are not trailers nor toy haulers. You get what you pay for.

You think not, challenge?
Currently, alot of makers make claims here and there but for the most part, in the end they will not stand up by itself to extensive periods of time through all extreme seasons.
Go to RV Trader, RVT, etc. and put in the highest priced fivers (non toy hauler). Download from each maker's site the pdf spec sheet. You will be shocked. Why are they so pricey, some more expensive than some homes? Construction, durable long lasting - come rain or shine. Old man Canadian winter or Arizona heatwave summer. And, oh yes, let's not play here: You will be paying for the propane to run the beast, but... no skirting needed.
The chosen few are The Stand Alones.

These are the fifth wheels -
Forest River - Cardinal, RiverStone.
Thor - Landmark. DRV - Mobile Suites, Elite Suites.
Crossroads - Redwood.

Independent lines -
Forks RV - Continental Coach (custom made).
New Horizons (custom made (post added and confirmed - you are correct Colliehauler).

Recent Past Orphaned Lines -
Evergreen - Lifestyle Luxury, Bay Hill.
Carriage - Carri Lite, Royals.
DRV - Tradition, Estates.
Newmar - Kountry Aire.
Teton - Royal, Experience.

Note: Popular notions -
Good brands like Cedar Creek, Montana lines are not true 4 seasons fivers. New recent high specs are specialized order, not standard.
Nuwa and orphaned Excel lines lack in overall extreme r values.
Carriage Cameo line falls into the upper mid fiver level, like Montana or Cedar Creek.
Always trusted and respected Arctic Fox's quality line is considered upper mid. Models listed above as best now far exceed AF's specs.



Regards,
Mark

[PA12DRVR]

sidney wrote:
I really like pizza.

I cooked pizza on my outdoor grill in an unseasonably cold 19 degrees in N. Carolina a few years back standing outside my KZ Escalade.

...but my sister-in-law never bought one.

Piper makes good airplanes.



(....did I catch the right vibe for the thread? 😉 )

[sidney]

I really like pizza.

[CarlT100]

This thread is way beyond my meager comprehension. I can make my Impact livable in freezing temps and in temps 100+ and I can always move on to a different location.

[kakampers]

goducks10 wrote:
JMO but 3 seasons is enough for me. If I was full timing and had the freedom to move around, the last place I'd want to be is the place where the weather is either extremely cold, hot or raining for days on end. Isn't that the idea to go full timing? To have the freedom to go and do whatever and wherever you want? I understand that having a true 4 season trailer would be needed if you're going to stay somewhere where it's 25* for days on end. But geez who the heck wants to live out retirement putting up with that?
Most people that leave the cold for the heat and vice versa are doing so because they can.
It's one thing to be somewhere where the weather takes a turn real quick and you need to tough it out. But some planning ahead would take care of that.

If you're not in control of yourself while on the road then maybe you need to address why you're not. I'm not sure what's stopping anyone full timing from hitching up and going where they want. If you're camp hosting then that's different. Weather can turn nasty at times in certain areas of the country. If it's a money issue then it sounds like full timing is the wrong life style.

If you're the guy that's living in a van down by the river then that explains it.

In our situation, it's because we go where the work is...at least for the next seven months. We chose a rig that can handle temps below freezing for long periods of time.

This will be tested fully for the next couple of months...we're leaving Wyoming in about a week to spend November and December in PA. However, since we've already spent about a week last year below zero, without issue, we don't expect it to be a problem...

[Dave_Jeanette]

I'm still trying to figure out the reason for the OP's posts. They seem to be just rambling rants.
Am I missing something?

[goducks10]

JMO but 3 seasons is enough for me. If I was full timing and had the freedom to move around, the last place I'd want to be is the place where the weather is either extremely cold, hot or raining for days on end. Isn't that the idea to go full timing? To have the freedom to go and do whatever and wherever you want? I understand that having a true 4 season trailer would be needed if you're going to stay somewhere where it's 25* for days on end. But geez who the heck wants to live out retirement putting up with that?
Most people that leave the cold for the heat and vice versa are doing so because they can.
It's one thing to be somewhere where the weather takes a turn real quick and you need to tough it out. But some planning ahead would take care of that.

If you're not in control of yourself while on the road then maybe you need to address why you're not. I'm not sure what's stopping anyone full timing from hitching up and going where they want. If you're camp hosting then that's different. Weather can turn nasty at times in certain areas of the country. If it's a money issue then it sounds like full timing is the wrong life style.

If you're the guy that's living in a van down by the river then that explains it.

[MeetTheMark]

Large fivers are bigger in interior space than motorhomes. I can detach.
I will wait on the full roof solar panels that can even charge in the dark and run all items with 70K furnace and oven, even at once. In effect - propane no longer needed. Odorless tech sewer systems that decompose and evaporates waste from the underbelly or sides. In effect - dumping the tank is no longer needed. Soundless generators that go 10 weeks on 1 gallon of gas or water. Insulation that won't freeze water even with the solar energy off, eliminating winterizing. Never really needing to do anything with your rv - all year.
All you need to do with the rig is... just add water.
This will be someday. Not soon, but someday.

My sis chose a gently used beautiful 2010 Carriage. It's her decision. No argument from me.

Thanks all.

[tunatundra]

Mark or Meet the Mark. What are you taking and send me some please.

[shepstone]

Maybe the OP should be looking at a mobile home and not an rv? I always thought the point of an rv was to be able to follow the sun, not live in it all winter and wait for spring.

[Old-Biscuit]

Well I KNOW I took my MEDS this AM...........


:H

[Dan50]

lynndiwagon wrote:
I've owned a Nuwa and the Heartland Big Country is waaay better insulated.

I agree.

[ford_truck_guy]

What is the point ?? am I missing it ?? Perhaps is WAY OVER my head ?

[MeetTheMark]

And that is what they are doing. Wyotraveler is correct. The only way a true full timer can live out their older years in real freedom at the drop of hat is to pay out of the mouth for the very few rigs left to park and play under any upcoming weather conditions and not worry. The high end fiver world is closing. Either going out of business or forced to be aquired by a wealthier maker. Few buyers. There will not be new high end start ups daring to enter the market at this juncture. The full all year Class A Diesel pushers are also scraping by. Making your beloved mobile space too expensive to buy and operate that you are forced to be like everyone else and chase the weather changes. "Oh, we got to leave Minneapolis and get down to Florida and plug in fast!" We are close with all this technology, but will not get there soon with a all out capable self sustaining 5ver. Either your 3 seasons or alternate regions.

[transamz9]

I'll take my Sanibel with R38 all around and 40,000BTU furnace tested to -13* and take the extra wasted money the OP spent on his and camp in peace and comfort and have loads of money to spend on other things I want. :S

[Scott16]

I hope he finds what he is looking for???
But, Ex NuWa(Kansas RV Center)sells Elite Suites.
Just a thought.
Scott