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halcareric
Explorer
Explorer
Hello all. First time weighing our rig after almost a year full time

2022 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 8' bed Dully Diesel 2x4 XLT
2022 Durango Gold 391RKF 42.5 foot 5th Wheel

Full tank of fuel (48 gallons). NO fresh water, grey tanks empty, black tank had maybe 15 gallons. Fully loaded like we normally do.

Truck had my wife and I, plus 3 dogs in crates in back seat. Portable Generator, and portable waste tank with 3 dog X-pens in bed. 2 bikes and an aluminum ladder on back of trailer.
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CAT Scale numbers. Truck and Trailer
Steer Axle: 4,800
Drive Axle: 7,260
Trailer Axles: 13,400

Total GVW: 25,460
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CAT Scale numbers: Truck ONLY

Steer Axle: 4,760 (diff of 40 lbs)
Drive Axle: 3,960 (diff of 3,300 lbs)

Gross: 8,720

If I did this correctly, this is my trailer gross and pin weight. Pin takes some of the weight off the trailer axles.

GROSS: 25,460 - 8,720 = 16,740 for trailer gross weight

Gross of Trailer 16,740
Trailer Axles only - 13,400
------------
Pin weight = 3,340


Truck specs as taken off door sticker:
GARW Front : 5,300
GAWR Rear : 9,900

GVWR: 14,000
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KZ Spec Tag

STOCK Trailer Gross Weight Rating: 16,000
STOCK Cargo Max: 2,850
STOCK Dry Hitch Weight: 2,570

Of course, KZ doesn't weigh each unit getting ready for shipment nor does the dealer after adding his or customers options.
I have no idea what the stock axles weigh nor do I know what the new axles weigh, same for the king pin.

I have the Flex Air pin box with a rating of 16,000 lbs
5th wheel Reese Hitch with a rating of 25,000 lbs


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We have a "Flex-Air" pin box
MORryde 7,000 lb independent suspension with disk brakes. These axles are heavier than the standard


Are we good, or bad?
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valhalla360
Nomad III
Nomad III
halcareric wrote:
Hello all. First time weighing our rig after almost a year full time

2022 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 8' bed Dully Diesel 2x4 XLT
2022 Durango Gold 391RKF 42.5 foot 5th Wheel

Full tank of fuel (48 gallons). NO fresh water, grey tanks empty, black tank had maybe 15 gallons. Fully loaded like we normally do.

Truck had my wife and I, plus 3 dogs in crates in back seat. Portable Generator, and portable waste tank with 3 dog X-pens in bed. 2 bikes and an aluminum ladder on back of trailer.
--------------------------------
CAT Scale numbers. Truck and Trailer
Steer Axle: 4,800
Drive Axle: 7,260
Trailer Axles: 13,400

Total GVW: 25,460
------------------------------------------------

CAT Scale numbers: Truck ONLY

Steer Axle: 4,760 (diff of 40 lbs)
Drive Axle: 3,960 (diff of 3,300 lbs)

Gross: 8,720

If I did this correctly, this is my trailer gross and pin weight. Pin takes some of the weight off the trailer axles.

GROSS: 25,460 - 8,720 = 16,740 for trailer gross weight

Gross of Trailer 16,740
Trailer Axles only - 13,400
------------
Pin weight = 3,340


Truck specs as taken off door sticker:
GARW Front : 5,300
GAWR Rear : 9,900

GVWR: 14,000
---------------------------------------------
KZ Spec Tag

STOCK Trailer Gross Weight Rating: 16,000
STOCK Cargo Max: 2,850
STOCK Dry Hitch Weight: 2,570

Of course, KZ doesn't weigh each unit getting ready for shipment nor does the dealer after adding his or customers options.
I have no idea what the stock axles weigh nor do I know what the new axles weigh, same for the king pin.

I have the Flex Air pin box with a rating of 16,000 lbs
5th wheel Reese Hitch with a rating of 25,000 lbs


---------------------------------------------

We have a "Flex-Air" pin box
MORryde 7,000 lb independent suspension with disk brakes. These axles are heavier than the standard


Are we good, or bad?


Looks like the trailer is 740lb overweight.

Doesn't mean an instant failure but don't be shocked if it does.
Tammy & Mike
Ford F250 V10
2021 Gray Wolf
Gemini Catamaran 34'
Full Time spliting time between boat and RV

halcareric
Explorer
Explorer
dieseltruckdriver wrote:
dieseltruckdriver wrote:
halcareric wrote:
Hello all. First time weighing our rig after almost a year full time

2022 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 8' bed Dully Diesel 2x4 XLT
2022 Durango Gold 391RKF 42.5 foot 5th Wheel

Full tank of fuel (48 gallons). NO fresh water, grey tanks empty, black tank had maybe 15 gallons. Fully loaded like we normally do.

Truck had my wife and I, plus 3 dogs in crates in back seat. Portable Generator, and portable waste tank with 3 dog X-pens in bed. 2 bikes and an aluminum ladder on back of trailer.
--------------------------------
CAT Scale numbers. Truck and Trailer
Steer Axle: 4,800
Drive Axle: 7,260
Trailer Axles: 13,400

Total GVW: 25,460
------------------------------------------------

CAT Scale numbers: Truck ONLY

Steer Axle: 4,760 (diff of 40 lbs)
Drive Axle: 3,960 (diff of 3,300 lbs)

Gross: 8,720

If I did this correctly, this is my trailer gross and pin weight. Pin takes some of the weight off the trailer axles.

GROSS: 25,460 - 8,720 = 16,740 for trailer gross weight

Gross of Trailer 16,740
Trailer Axles only - 13,400
------------
Pin weight = 2,340

You are off almost 1,000 lbs on your pin weight. It looks like a simple math error. It's easy to do.

Rear pickup axle weight loaded minus empty.

Also it looks like you could have your pin a little farther forward, you are taking weight off the front axle. Ideally it wouldn't change, or add about what you are taking off it.



Thanks.. Yeah I made an edit to post and added that missing 1k. Thanks.
BUT, now to me, it looks like the pin weight is over what it should, meaning I have too much cargo in the pass through yes?

halcareric
Explorer
Explorer
fj12ryder wrote:
Shoot, looks good to me. Similar to what I'm pulling with my RAM.

Did the door sticker actually show 15,200 lbs. for the GVWR?


Opps, nope.. it's 14,000 GVWR for the truck. I'll edit my post

dieseltruckdriv
Explorer II
Explorer II
dieseltruckdriver wrote:
halcareric wrote:
Hello all. First time weighing our rig after almost a year full time

2022 Ford F-350 Crew Cab 8' bed Dully Diesel 2x4 XLT
2022 Durango Gold 391RKF 42.5 foot 5th Wheel

Full tank of fuel (48 gallons). NO fresh water, grey tanks empty, black tank had maybe 15 gallons. Fully loaded like we normally do.

Truck had my wife and I, plus 3 dogs in crates in back seat. Portable Generator, and portable waste tank with 3 dog X-pens in bed. 2 bikes and an aluminum ladder on back of trailer.
--------------------------------
CAT Scale numbers. Truck and Trailer
Steer Axle: 4,800
Drive Axle: 7,260
Trailer Axles: 13,400

Total GVW: 25,460
------------------------------------------------

CAT Scale numbers: Truck ONLY

Steer Axle: 4,760 (diff of 40 lbs)
Drive Axle: 3,960 (diff of 3,300 lbs)

Gross: 8,720

If I did this correctly, this is my trailer gross and pin weight. Pin takes some of the weight off the trailer axles.

GROSS: 25,460 - 8,720 = 16,740 for trailer gross weight

Gross of Trailer 16,740
Trailer Axles only - 13,400
------------
Pin weight = 2,340

You are off almost 1,000 lbs on your pin weight. It looks like a simple math error. It's easy to do.

Rear pickup axle weight loaded minus empty.

Also it looks like you could have your pin a little farther forward, you are taking weight off the front axle. Ideally it wouldn't change, or add about what you are taking off it.
2000 F-250 7.3 Powerstroke
2018 Arctic Fox 27-5L

fj12ryder
Explorer II
Explorer II
Shoot, looks good to me. Similar to what I'm pulling with my RAM.

Did the door sticker actually show 15,200 lbs. for the GVWR?
Howard and Peggy

"Don't Panic"