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Feb 10, 2023

Exterior Stairs

I have a 2012 Carriage Cameo F37RSQ and there are several areas of the entry steps that are compromised. I am holding them together with "band-aids". Has anyone replaced their stairs and what make and model did you use. I am leaning toward a similar type to OEM and not something that folds into the RV.

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joelc wrote:
laknox:
To expensive compared to other brands. As I stated I tried some modified repairs to my old steps and they are holding just fine. Hope it continues. I can think of other things I can do with $700 than a flight of accordion stairs. Perhaps, the price will come down later, or another brand will allow me to purchase at a \"reasonable\" price.


\"Reasonable\" price is in the eye of the beholder I think. Went to the local RV show this weekend. Almost all of the units had the one piece design steps. While they where solid feeling they also we more narrow then the Glowsteps. I am not a fan of the price of the Glowsteps either. After much debate with myself, I finally let go of the money but didn't tell the wife how much I spent. She was very happy with the Glowsteps and while she didn't like the price either, she says she is glad I bought them. Should the OP'er decide to buy them I don't think they will regret that purchase in the long run. Good luck.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-03-06T12:21:19.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-03-06T12:21:19.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":996},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3586130/message:3586186","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1023","rawBody":"
joelc wrote:
laknox:
To expensive compared to other brands. As I stated I tried some modified repairs to my old steps and they are holding just fine. Hope it continues. I can think of other things I can do with $700 than a flight of accordion stairs. Perhaps, the price will come down later, or another brand will allow me to purchase at a \"reasonable\" price.


\"Reasonable\" price is in the eye of the beholder I think. Went to the local RV show this weekend. Almost all of the units had the one piece design steps. While they where solid feeling they also we more narrow then the Glowsteps. I am not a fan of the price of the Glowsteps either. After much debate with myself, I finally let go of the money but didn't tell the wife how much I spent. She was very happy with the Glowsteps and while she didn't like the price either, she says she is glad I bought them. Should the OP'er decide to buy them I don't think they will regret that purchase in the long run. Good luck.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3586186_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586185":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3586185","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3586185":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:331649"},"id":"message:3586185","revisionNum":1,"uid":3586185,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3586130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3586130"},"subject":"Re: Exterior Stairs","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586185"},"body":"laknox:
To expensive compared to other brands. As I stated I tried some modified repairs to my old steps and they are holding just fine. Hope it continues. I can think of other things I can do with $700 than a flight of accordion stairs. Perhaps, the price will come down later, or another brand will allow me to purchase at a \"reasonable\" price.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-03-06T08:23:48.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-03-06T08:23:48.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":991},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3586130/message:3586185","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"355","rawBody":"laknox:
To expensive compared to other brands. As I stated I tried some modified repairs to my old steps and they are holding just fine. Hope it continues. I can think of other things I can do with $700 than a flight of accordion stairs. Perhaps, the price will come down later, or another brand will allow me to purchase at a \"reasonable\" price.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3586185_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:379469":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:379469","uid":379469,"login":"laknox","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2008-01-06T20:31:38.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:39"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:379469"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586184":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3586184","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3586184":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:379469"},"id":"message:3586184","revisionNum":1,"uid":3586184,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3586130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3586130"},"subject":"Re: Exterior Stairs","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586184"},"body":"
joelc wrote:
I have a 2012 Carriage Cameo F37RSQ and there are several areas of the entry steps that are compromised. I am holding them together with \"band-aids\". Has anyone replaced their stairs and what make and model did you use. I am leaning toward a similar type to OEM and not something that folds into the RV.

Thanks


Look at replacing them with the Glowstep Revolution. Bolt-on installation and have adjustments at the bottom to give the stability of the solid steps.

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joelc wrote:
I have a 2012 Carriage Cameo F37RSQ and there are several areas of the entry steps that are compromised. I am holding them together with \"band-aids\". Has anyone replaced their stairs and what make and model did you use. I am leaning toward a similar type to OEM and not something that folds into the RV.

Thanks


Look at replacing them with the Glowstep Revolution. Bolt-on installation and have adjustments at the bottom to give the stability of the solid steps.

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1st they were constantly squeaky. No matter how much or what type of lube I used the squeaking eventually came back.
They also were too flexy when trying to be quiet in the early morning while the wife was still sleeping.
Solid steps are dead silent and have zero bounce or flex.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-02-20T08:45:02.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-02-20T08:45:02.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":989},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3586130/message:3586183","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"352","rawBody":"I replaced my aluminum fold out steps for two reasons.
1st they were constantly squeaky. No matter how much or what type of lube I used the squeaking eventually came back.
They also were too flexy when trying to be quiet in the early morning while the wife was still sleeping.
Solid steps are dead silent and have zero bounce or flex.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3586183_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:321363":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:321363","uid":321363,"login":"Cummins12V98","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-06-03T15:01:10.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:321363"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586182":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3586182","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3586182":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:3586182","revisionNum":1,"uid":3586182,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3586130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3586130"},"subject":"Re: Exterior Stairs","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586182"},"body":"
fj12ryder wrote:
If one plans for all potential possibilities, one would sit at home, surround himself with pillows and do nothing. Don't forget that unlevel ground leading up to the steps, maybe we should only allow parking on concrete or other level surfaces. As I mentioned several times, solid steps may be necessary for mobility impaired individuals.


Just had my knee operated on last week. Honestly can say I have not wished for solid steps.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-02-20T07:38:43.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-02-20T07:38:43.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":987},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3586130/message:3586182","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"489","rawBody":"
fj12ryder wrote:
If one plans for all potential possibilities, one would sit at home, surround himself with pillows and do nothing. Don't forget that unlevel ground leading up to the steps, maybe we should only allow parking on concrete or other level surfaces. As I mentioned several times, solid steps may be necessary for mobility impaired individuals.


Just had my knee operated on last week. Honestly can say I have not wished for solid steps.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3586182_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586181":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3586181","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3586181":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:3586181","revisionNum":1,"uid":3586181,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3586130"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3586130"},"subject":"Re: Exterior Stairs","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3586181"},"body":"\"We used to keep an aluminum jack stand to put under the bottom step to eliminate the diving board effect.

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valhalla360 wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
I don't understand the issue with a bit of \"bounce\", unless you're are mobility limited. An able bodied person shouldn't have any issues with the normal fold-out steps. I'm 73 and it is simply a non-issue.


I'm fine with a small amount of bounce but when a visiting friend fell...not so great. If you are single and anti-social, works fine. If you have friends who come in, it's not so great.

Good point, bounce or more pointedly stairs that move, even a little, are a potential serious safety issue much like a hand rail.
There are plenty of stairs in the world without hand rails that are not a big issue until someone falls because there was no handrail!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2023-02-20T03:06:28.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2023-02-20T03:06:28.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":984},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:3586130/message:3586178","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"773","rawBody":"
valhalla360 wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
I don't understand the issue with a bit of \"bounce\", unless you're are mobility limited. An able bodied person shouldn't have any issues with the normal fold-out steps. I'm 73 and it is simply a non-issue.


I'm fine with a small amount of bounce but when a visiting friend fell...not so great. If you are single and anti-social, works fine. If you have friends who come in, it's not so great.

Good point, bounce or more pointedly stairs that move, even a little, are a potential serious safety issue much like a hand rail.
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