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anaro
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Jul 30, 2014

good article for 5er newbies

I saw this article titled What to know before you tow a fifth wheel from autoguide.com. As a relative newbie to the 5er world, I thought it would be helpful to newbies considering the move to a 5er. If I had to change one thing it would be to tell people to hook the emergency breakaway cable to the truck bed instead of the hitch.

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  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
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    Aug 02, 2014
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    DickOK wrote:
    I thought this was a terrible article. Lots of bad info and pictures. Not all hitches are the same. Mine, you back into with jaws closed. PULL TEST.


    I agree I thought it was pathetic!
  • DickOK's avatar
    DickOK
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    Aug 01, 2014
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    I thought this was a terrible article. Lots of bad info and pictures. Not all hitches are the same. Mine, you back into with jaws closed. PULL TEST.
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    TakingThe5th
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    Jul 31, 2014
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    kohai wrote:
    goducks10 wrote:
    oweninthekeys wrote:
    Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


    Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


    This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!


    Tuesday I followed a ¾ ton out of Wisconsin pulling a small Cougar and a small boat. He seemed to be handling OK. I was surprised.

    I didn't think that lash-up was legal in Illinois but he crossed the state line.
  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
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    kohai wrote:
    goducks10 wrote:
    oweninthekeys wrote:
    Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


    Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


    This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!


    I would lean more towards Irresponsible!
  • kohai's avatar
    kohai
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    goducks10 wrote:
    oweninthekeys wrote:
    Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


    Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


    This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!
  • Cummins12V98's avatar
    Cummins12V98
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    Jul 30, 2014
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    That article is full of flaws!

    "With a fifth wheel, the weight that is placed on the truck is between the rear axle and the cab, eliminating the pivot point and spreading the weight evenly over all four wheels, allowing the suspension to share the load"

    I can tell you they are a mile off with that statement! My pin weight is 4,500# and I only add +- 140# to the front axle. Evenly? Don't think so.

    A tow behind with weight distribution will "share the load" more than a 5er.
  • TakingThe5th's avatar
    TakingThe5th
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    goducks10 wrote:
    oweninthekeys wrote:
    Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


    Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


    Sounds more like sales material then good tech info.

    If I were towing a DRV with a ½ ton I would like to die peacefully, not yelling and crying and screaming and cussing like my passengers.
  • TXiceman's avatar
    TXiceman
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    Jul 30, 2014
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    First photo at the top of the article shows a big old DRV Mobile Suites being towed with a single rear wheel truck. I don't think they make anything within SRW truck ratings.

    The article did not even mention how to determine how to what you can tow within the trucks rating.

    It looks like a lot of fluff written by a self-proclaimed expert to me.

    Ken
  • goducks10's avatar
    goducks10
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    oweninthekeys wrote:
    Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


    Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.

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DickOK wrote:
I thought this was a terrible article. Lots of bad info and pictures. Not all hitches are the same. Mine, you back into with jaws closed. PULL TEST.


I agree I thought it was pathetic!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-08-01T19:46:35.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-08-01T19:46:35.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":403},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227424","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"242","rawBody":"
DickOK wrote:
I thought this was a terrible article. Lots of bad info and pictures. Not all hitches are the same. Mine, you back into with jaws closed. PULL TEST.


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kohai wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!


Tuesday I followed a ¾ ton out of Wisconsin pulling a small Cougar and a small boat. He seemed to be handling OK. I was surprised.

I didn't think that lash-up was legal in Illinois but he crossed the state line.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-31T13:03:05.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-31T13:03:05.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":405},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227422","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"914","rawBody":"
kohai wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!


Tuesday I followed a ¾ ton out of Wisconsin pulling a small Cougar and a small boat. He seemed to be handling OK. I was surprised.

I didn't think that lash-up was legal in Illinois but he crossed the state line.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1227422_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227421":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1227421","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1227421":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:1227421","revisionNum":1,"uid":1227421,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1227411"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1227411"},"subject":"Re: good article for 5er newbies","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227421"},"body":"
kohai wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!


I would lean more towards Irresponsible!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-30T18:15:49.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-30T18:15:49.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":403},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227421","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"731","rawBody":"
kohai wrote:
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!


I would lean more towards Irresponsible!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1227421_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:233847":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:233847","uid":233847,"login":"kohai","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-02-26T09:32:32.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-2.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:233847"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227420":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1227420","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1227420":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:233847"},"id":"message:1227420","revisionNum":1,"uid":1227420,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1227411"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1227411"},"subject":"Re: good article for 5er newbies","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227420"},"body":"
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-30T17:56:20.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-30T17:56:20.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":406},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227420","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"636","rawBody":"
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


This past weekend I saw a 1/2 ton pull into the campground pulling an old Cougar 5th wheel and then I was really surprised to see a boat attached to the back of 5th wheel. Brave soul!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1227420_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:292772":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:292772","uid":292772,"login":"Allworth","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-10-10T09:44:48.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:292772"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227419":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1227419","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1227419":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:292772"},"id":"message:1227419","revisionNum":1,"uid":1227419,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1227411"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1227411"},"subject":"Re: good article for 5er newbies","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227419"},"body":"Somebody knows just enough to be dangerous!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"43","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-30T16:50:11.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-30T16:50:11.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":405},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227419","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"43","rawBody":"Somebody knows just enough to be dangerous!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1227419_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227418":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1227418","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1227418":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:321363"},"id":"message:1227418","revisionNum":1,"uid":1227418,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1227411"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1227411"},"subject":"Re: good article for 5er newbies","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227418"},"body":"That article is full of flaws!

\"With a fifth wheel, the weight that is placed on the truck is between the rear axle and the cab, eliminating the pivot point and spreading the weight evenly over all four wheels, allowing the suspension to share the load\"

I can tell you they are a mile off with that statement! My pin weight is 4,500# and I only add +- 140# to the front axle. Evenly? Don't think so.

A tow behind with weight distribution will \"share the load\" more than a 5er.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-30T15:06:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-30T15:06:52.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":403},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227418","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"512","rawBody":"That article is full of flaws!

\"With a fifth wheel, the weight that is placed on the truck is between the rear axle and the cab, eliminating the pivot point and spreading the weight evenly over all four wheels, allowing the suspension to share the load\"

I can tell you they are a mile off with that statement! My pin weight is 4,500# and I only add +- 140# to the front axle. Evenly? Don't think so.

A tow behind with weight distribution will \"share the load\" more than a 5er.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1227418_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227417":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1227417","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1227417":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:323747"},"id":"message:1227417","revisionNum":1,"uid":1227417,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1227411"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1227411"},"subject":"Re: good article for 5er newbies","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227417"},"body":"
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


Sounds more like sales material then good tech info.

If I were towing a DRV with a ½ ton I would like to die peacefully, not yelling and crying and screaming and cussing like my passengers.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-30T13:39:52.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-30T13:39:52.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":403},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227417","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"653","rawBody":"
goducks10 wrote:
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.


Sounds more like sales material then good tech info.

If I were towing a DRV with a ½ ton I would like to die peacefully, not yelling and crying and screaming and cussing like my passengers.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1227417_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:556":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:556","uid":556,"login":"TXiceman","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2000-11-17T08:57:26.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:556"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227416":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1227416","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1227416":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:556"},"id":"message:1227416","revisionNum":1,"uid":1227416,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:FifthWheelforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1227411"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1227411"},"subject":"Re: good article for 5er newbies","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1227416"},"body":"First photo at the top of the article shows a big old DRV Mobile Suites being towed with a single rear wheel truck. I don't think they make anything within SRW truck ratings.

The article did not even mention how to determine how to what you can tow within the trucks rating.

It looks like a lot of fluff written by a self-proclaimed expert to me.

Ken","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-30T12:46:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-30T12:46:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":405},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227416","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"385","rawBody":"First photo at the top of the article shows a big old DRV Mobile Suites being towed with a single rear wheel truck. I don't think they make anything within SRW truck ratings.

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It looks like a lot of fluff written by a self-proclaimed expert to me.

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oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? They're both at their limits but a 5'er is more stable than a TT.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-07-30T09:48:38.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-07-30T09:48:38.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":403},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:FifthWheel/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:FifthWheelforum-board/message:1227411/message:1227415","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"393","rawBody":"
oweninthekeys wrote:
Wished that they would not of started out by saying you could tow a fifth wheel with a F-150 or Ram 1500. Credibility of article declines from that point.


Well some do. And are maxed out. But what's worse a maxed out 1/2 ton and 5'er or a maxed out 3/4 ton and TT? 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