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RonWSl
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Sep 05, 2014

Install Onan in 5th Wheel Questions

I recently acquired an older 6.5NH3CR Onan at an extremely reasonable price which came out of a Class A. I want to install it in my 07 KZ Montego Bay 5th wheel. The 5th WHeel has Gen Prep, consisting of a sealed metal box in the front storage area and the transfer switch. I have an electrician buddy who will do the actual wiring of the unit to the RV. But, I have researched and read multiple articles on installing generators in 5th wheels but still have a few questions and issues to resolve before I tackle the job.

1. I have seen some of the generators mounted on slide drawers and like the idea of being able to slide the generator out to work on if needed; but, if the generator is mounted on a slide then how is the exhaust handled? How would the venting be done?

2. The generator requires venting - will it be necessary to cut a hole in the bay door for a vent cover or can the vent be in the floor of the box - my CLass A had the same generator and there was no venting for it other then the floor.

3. Fuel. The specs say that this unit will burn 1.3 Gal's /hour "at rated load and speed" - if we only use it for mainly running the AC unit or units (I assume it will handle both roof a/c's) and maybe an occassional use of the microwave or coffee pot, what would the average gal/hr be?

4. That leads to fuel. What kind and what size gas tank would be best AND more importantly, where to put it in the 5th wheel - in the same compartment as the generator? In the basement with a gas line running into the generator compartment?

5. Battery - will it need a seperate battery or can i just run the leads to the house battery/batteries?

5. And last, will it be ok to remove the generator from the pan it is currently bolted to and not use the pan at all - with the pan, it would be a bear to try and manuver into the front box?
  • I bought a Onan 7000 Marquis. It came out of an A. The dealer installed so I can't tell you everything. It is not on a slide, but I can get to most everything. It uses the 5ths batteries. Dealer built a wooden insulated box in the front compartment. It's designed to hold 2 6 gallon marine tanks, My exhaust goes through the floor. It gets air through front door. RV was generator ready and can be started from inside the trailer. very hard to hear the unit running from the inside. Very well insulated. It will run anything in the trailer. I only have it as a back up as we always park with full hook ups. Generator had about 400 hours when I purchased it. I really like the set up.
  • Check your Onan to see if it has duel fuel input capability, gasoline or propane. If not, consider having a propane kit installed. Propane fueled Onans really simplify the installation, use and operation.
  • Exhaust can not extend out under a slideout...that may affect how you do it.

    With a fiver I would use couple of 6 gallon marine (outboard) tanks in the truck bed. Big tanks are nice, but if you only use it as you describe you will be back with gummy carb issues from bad gas. Plus the portable tank can easily be refilled without moving the trailer.

    Onan has mounting schmatics and requirements for all their gensets on line, do a search, because they can tell you what should be done. Manuf "prep" is sometimes very lacking in what really need to be done.
  • > Vent through floor
    > Slide would require exhaust pipe to be placed so it would move with the slide as far as possible or removed to use the slide. I only had to work on mine twice and it was easy from underneath so no need for a slide.
    > For the 7 gallon steel fuel tank, mine had a separate sealed comparment next to the sealed generator compartment. The fuel filler hose ran to the side of the 5th wheel where a indented fuel cap holder was mounted. The fuel line ran through the bottom of the floor over to the generator. At full throttle we would get close to 8 hours of use.
    > I carried a 5gal plastic fuel jug for refilling the tank.
    > It used the trailer battery for start power.

    When my Onan died, I bought two Honda 2000i with the parallel kit. I find these a lot more flexible generator solution.
  • RonWSl wrote:
    I recently acquired an older 6.5NH3CR Onan at an extremely reasonable price which came out of a Class A. I want to install it in my 07 KZ Montego Bay 5th wheel. The 5th WHeel has Gen Prep, consisting of a sealed metal box in the front storage area and the transfer switch. I have an electrician buddy who will do the actual wiring of the unit to the RV. But, I have researched and read multiple articles on installing generators in 5th wheels but still have a few questions and issues to resolve before I tackle the job.


    RonWSl wrote:

    1. I have seen some of the generators mounted on slide drawers and like the idea of being able to slide the generator out to work on if needed; but, if the generator is mounted on a slide then how is the exhaust handled? How would the venting be done?


    when I looked at the slides, they seem to have a box which extends the hole in the compartment floor used for venting (next topic)
    I would love to use the slide, cause this gen is a beast (290lbs)
    slide part catalog page 54.

    RonWSl wrote:

    2. The generator requires venting - will it be necessary to cut a hole in the bay door for a vent cover or can the vent be in the floor of the box - my CLass A had the same generator and there was no venting for it other then the floor.


    my gen requires cutting holes in the compartment floor for air input to the motor and for cooling.. I have just made the template to cut the hole. the front door will be sealed against the enclosure.

    RonWSl wrote:

    3. Fuel. The specs say that this unit will burn 1.3 Gal's /hour "at rated load and speed" - if we only use it for mainly running the AC unit or units (I assume it will handle both roof a/c's) and maybe an occassional use of the microwave or coffee pot, what would the average gal/hr be?


    I am converting my gen to tri fuel, to run from propane as primary,
    gas as secondary. I don't want to carry gasoline.

    RonWSl wrote:

    4. That leads to fuel. What kind and what size gas tank would be best AND more importantly, where to put it in the 5th wheel - in the same compartment as the generator? In the basement with a gas line running into the generator compartment?


    strongly recommended NOT to house the fuel in the front comparment while the gen is running.. move it outside.

    RonWSl wrote:

    5. Battery - will it need a seperate battery or can i just run the leads to the house battery/batteries?


    yes, strongly recommended to have a separate battery

    RonWSl wrote:

    6. And last, will it be ok to remove the generator from the pan it is currently bolted to and not use the pan at all - with the pan, it would be a bear to try and manuver into the front box?


    I don't know what your 'pan' looks like.. mine has a cover and a base. and the base contains the fan and pulleys for engine and stator.
    and is the engine and gen mounting plate.
  • Most Onan gennies installed on fifth wheels are vented through the floor but they are typically 5.5 Onan units. We have a TH with a 4K Onan installed and it is vented through the door, can't help on where to store gas as our rig has a 25 gallon tank for genny fuel.

    Obviously gas consumption on such a large genny will be significant, but I would imagine running both ACs will require roughly 5K watts and consume about a gallon an hour. Our 4K unit uses about a 1/2 gallon depending on load.

    Can't help you on installation as ours was installed at factory, but if you got a good deal on your Onan and you already have the prep done from the factory, it might be a good idea to have it professionally installed to eliminate any guesswork. Our Onan utilizes our house battery bank for starting. Good luck and enjoy the convenience of an onboard genny.