New tires

[shepstone]

So I saw another tire failure on the highway today, that has been 3 or 4 in the last year , this one was in the middle of the 401 at the express lanes exit to collectors going to the Neilson/ Morningside exit in Toronto. This one had the police, heavy tow, tire service people, and fire dept at the scene It was a TT this time the others were all fivers. Anyway that made up my mind to get a better set of tires , So I have Kal Tire in Whitby order a set of Carlisle RH 10 ply load range E part # 5151411. They will be a step up from the 6ply load range D that are on there now. The choices in 15" tires are limited & I couldn't find a Maxis dealer any where near here. I didn't want to go a size up to 16"LT as the cost would have more than doubled, and it might have made for issues with the levelling system and clearances. The Carlisle 15" tires have decent specs on them. $ 820.00 installed plus an extra for metal valve stems as I want to put a TPMS system on them as well.

[laknox]

avvidclif1 wrote:

Me Again wrote:

laknox wrote:
The Carliles have a N speed rating, 87 mph. I figure that if you don't tow over 65 anyway, the beefier construction should handle the lower speeds just fine.

Lyle

So how do you increase the speed rating without reducing the weight rating, other than marketing to Bass Boat Guys????

Speed verses wight is one of the most basic tire parameters. Wight goes up speed must down. Speed goes up weight must come down. Carlisle is

Duh, build a better tire!!!!

My point! I feel that they =have= built a better tire. As good as Maxxis? Jury's still out, but I feel that they have a decent start.

Lyle

[avvidclif1]

Me Again wrote:

laknox wrote:
The Carliles have a N speed rating, 87 mph. I figure that if you don't tow over 65 anyway, the beefier construction should handle the lower speeds just fine.

Lyle

So how do you increase the speed rating without reducing the weight rating, other than marketing to Bass Boat Guys????

Speed verses wight is one of the most basic tire parameters. Wight goes up speed must down. Speed goes up weight must come down. Carlisle is

Duh, build a better tire!!!!

[Me_Again]

laknox wrote:
The Carliles have a N speed rating, 87 mph. I figure that if you don't tow over 65 anyway, the beefier construction should handle the lower speeds just fine.

Lyle

Carlisle is a bit hard to understand! I believe there is a lot of Bass Boat Guy stuff in their speed ratings. ST tires by design get their higher weight rating based on the 65 MPH speed restriction. So how do you increase the speed rating without reducing the weight rating, other than marketing to Bass Boat Guys????

Speed verses wight is one of the most basic tire parameters. Wight goes up speed must down. Speed goes up weight must come down. Carlisle is the only company doing this presently and the only company marketing and sponsoring bass boat events.

http://www.carlisletransportationproducts.com/news/announcements/carlisle-renews-support-of-american...

[robrose1]

I have had the new Carlisle RH on my rig for almost 2 years now and no issues. In fact I left it in storage for 8 months and when I picked it up they were still at 65psi. I run 65 cause my rig is fairly light weight.

[laknox]

The Carliles have a N speed rating, 87 mph. I figure that if you don't tow over 65 anyway, the beefier construction should handle the lower speeds just fine.

Lyle

[RVman3252]

MNRon wrote:
Older Carlisles had a bad reputation, I have yet to hear of any problems on the RHs but they are still only 3+ yrs into this design. By now someone has to have had a problem, but overall they appear to hold up well judging from responses.

Still they don't have the long history of good service that Maxxis have. Regardless, I'm happy with my RHs that I've put 7-8K miles on in the last two years. Hope they continue to do well and I'll replace with same when they age out.

It is time to replace my tires on my 5th Wheel which unfortunately has 15" tires... after reading this thread, I think I will try these new Carlisle RH's... no where around me handle Maxxis, however the company who I buy all my tires from (asphalt business) can get them, but not at a good price, plus has to pay shipping.

Mine are: ST225/75R15

Maxxis (E Rated) $118.00 per tire plus shipping of $40.00 (4 tires)
Transporters (E Rated) $90.00 per tire, no shipping
Carlisle RH (E Rated) $88.00 per tire, no shipping

Which includes mounting & balancing... he said he is giving me a good price since it is for personal use.

[avvidclif1]

The RH series have been out over 4 years and zero problems reported. I ran the RH 16" on my last 2 trailers for a total of 10k mi (traded trailers not tires). I wouldn't worry about them. I would have moved them to my new trailer but didn't want to pay for mounting(new trailer has 8 bolt rims).

[sunrae]

We were also looking for Maxxis tires and found their head office in Brampton, Ontario. They will ship the tires directly to your home. I asked about picking them up and was told it was only about 15.00 difference a tire.

Address- Maxxis International Canada
400 Chrysler Drive, Unit C
Brampton, Ontario
L6S 5Z5
Telephone: 1-905-789-0882

Website is www.maxxiscanada.com

We called and left a message and they returned the call within the same day.

[MNRon]

Older Carlisles had a bad reputation, I have yet to hear of any problems on the RHs but they are still only 3+ yrs into this design. By now someone has to have had a problem, but overall they appear to hold up well judging from responses.

Still they don't have the long history of good service that Maxxis have. Regardless, I'm happy with my RHs that I've put 7-8K miles on in the last two years. Hope they continue to do well and I'll replace with same when they age out.

[laknox]

shepstone wrote:
So I saw another tire failure on the highway today, that has been 3 or 4 in the last year , this one was in the middle of the 401 at the express lanes exit to collectors going to the Neilson/ Morningside exit in Toronto. This one had the police, heavy tow, tire service people, and fire dept at the scene It was a TT this time the others were all fivers. Anyway that made up my mind to get a better set of tires , So I have Kal Tire in Whitby order a set of Carlisle RH 10 ply load range E part # 5151411. They will be a step up from the 6ply load range D that are on there now. The choices in 15" tires are limited & I couldn't find a Maxis dealer any where near here. I didn't want to go a size up to 16"LT as the cost would have more than doubled, and it might have made for issues with the levelling system and clearances. The Carlisle 15" tires have decent specs on them. $ 820.00 installed plus an extra for metal valve stems as I want to put a TPMS system on them as well.

I have the Carlisles on my Komfort. This is 3rd year and they still look good and ride well. No issues. Always at 80 psi, stored on boards and covered.

Lyle

[Peg_Leg]

I feel for the people on the 401. I was up through there a couple of weeks ago. You guys have more than enough traffic to go around.

Stayed at a nice campground just off the 401 out east by Pickering. Glen Rouge Campground, it has just over 100 spots and was nice and quiet. Our friends didn't even know it was there.

[shepstone]

JIMNLIN wrote:
Your Keystone Cougar 28 SGS shows to have a ST225/75-15 D load range at 65 psi which is a 8 ply rated tire.
The Carlisle ST225/75-15 E is a 10 rated tire at 80 psi.

Both tires have a two ply carcass with 4 plies under the tread = 6 actual plies.....however the E tire has a heavier/thicker two ply carcass than the D tire.

Carlisle has a terrible rep with trailer haulers of all types and has been #1 in tire complaints of all the ST tires.

The new Carlisle RH has lost that rounded tread/sidewall profile and is a much better looking tire for trailer service. Keep them pumped to the max for a cooler operating tire and to satisfy Carlisle new tire warranty.


This from Carlisle;
Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
– 3 to 5 years is the average life expectancy of a trailer tire,regardless of mileage.
– It is estimated that in approximately three years, roughly one-third of a tire's strength is gone
– After three years, depending upon storage and conditions of usage, consider replacing trailer tires even if they have tread depth remaining.

– After five years, trailer tires should be replaced in all cases.

I stand corrected I thought they were 6 ply. Thanks for the input

[shepstone]

midnightsadie wrote:
carlisle has a bad rep, over the years, some body has maxxis keep looking.

Ok I will keep looking but Maxxis Canada has the nearest dealer listed at the other side of the country. The newer radial trail "rh" tires dont seem to have bad reviews like the older ones. If anyone has real time use of them I would like to know their opinion

[JIMNLIN]

Your Keystone Cougar 28 SGS shows to have a ST225/75-15 D load range at 65 psi which is a 8 ply rated tire.
The Carlisle ST225/75-15 E is a 10 rated tire at 80 psi.

Both tires have a two ply carcass with 4 plies under the tread = 6 actual plies.....however the E tire has a heavier/thicker two ply carcass than the D tire.

Carlisle has a terrible rep with trailer haulers of all types and has been #1 in tire complaints of all the ST tires.

The new Carlisle RH has lost that rounded tread/sidewall profile and is a much better looking tire for trailer service. Keep them pumped to the max for a cooler operating tire and to satisfy Carlisle new tire warranty.


This from Carlisle;
Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
– 3 to 5 years is the average life expectancy of a trailer tire,regardless of mileage.
– It is estimated that in approximately three years, roughly one-third of a tire's strength is gone
– After three years, depending upon storage and conditions of usage, consider replacing trailer tires even if they have tread depth remaining.

– After five years, trailer tires should be replaced in all cases.