Quality control problems - rant

SidecarFlip wrote:

dannko wrote:

2001400ex wrote:
Just want to rant a little. It's crazy how the manufactures have almost zero quality control now, much different than even 4 years ago. My first toy hauler I bought in 08. That one had no problems when I bought it, but about everything broke while using it. Fine, it was a cheap, bottom of they line toy hauler, I get it. My second one I bought new in 2013 and it had no problems from the get go and very minimal things broke along the way. But my new toy hauler....

I picked it up a couple weeks ago as a 2017 that's been on the lot since February. The list of stuff that's broken is long, most notably the line to fill the water tank was cut at some point and the repair job was awful. The carpet is coming apart, charging station doesn't work, one screen isn't on the tracks, 2 of the blinds won't stay up, one drawer is mounted crooked, the caulking is completely missing on one bump out, the other one it is about 1/8 inch too high, faucet opens in travel (when turn pump on it starts spraying), the beds don't go up at the same time as they are off, the TV is mounted where it rubs against the cabinet, the outside front storage door is crooked so it's very hard to close and latch, the place where the pump is I found 3 random screws and an extra wire and a ton of sawdust, and 2 screws were dropped in the ramp door so it scratched the inside of where it connects to the trailer.

So I knew quality had gone down in the last few years. My brother has the same brand of toy hauler and bought new last fall on one that he ordered, so he picked it up right after it was delivered, almost the same issues. Same with a few other friends in the last couple years. It seems like every one of these now days is just a mess. I do have an appointment in 2 weeks to get the stuff fixed so all will be good. But I figured I'd rant because I can.

Though I am against lawsuits, it's clear that class action suits need to be brought up against most rv manufacturers. (others have agreed on forums)

Then nationwide lemon laws need to be in place with buy back requirements.

After some buy backs, and lawsuit payouts, some will quit building (good they probably need to) and then maybe the rest will start putting some quality back into the units.

This is the only way the problem will be fixed in the current environment.

Need to be careful about posting that stuff, the user agreement that you agreed to when you first logged on, explicitly states.....

"Posts are not allowed in which a local, state, or federal consumer action board and/or legal counsel is/have been involved. This includes posts related to future, ongoing or past lawsuits"

While I agree that owners need to address the poor QC, this forum isn't the place to discuss it (and neither is any other RV forum I know of, all have the same basic users agreement.

I'm not a moderator hsre but I do read the 'rules of the road' and always try to abide by them.

Just for your FYI.

As a late model RV owner, I feel your pain and it's painfully obvious to me that manufacturers in general have on blinder when it comes to even the basic QC issues but demand has overridden supply so it get them done as fast as possible and go to the next unit and so on. W

When you operate with that production philosophy, product quality suffers because quality takes a back seat to production numbers and so long as the bottom line looks good, all that matters, not the end user.

I subscribe to RV Industry News and every day I read bout the profits manufacturers are making. Seldom (if ever) about the overall quality. I think the only time RV Industry News mentioned anything about quality was a comment about Forrest River's proposed 'Shine Bay', where units were supposedly 'looked over' as the last step in production, prior to shipping, for defects and supposedly those defects (lack of QC) would be addressed in the 'shine bay'. If, in fact FR initiated that, I have no idea as it was only mentioned one time, months ago, and never again.

ha, well you read more than I, but I just suggested, what you show is an actual suit. I think my suggestions are being echoed across the buying public. It's sad that we are building China quality in the USA.