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morphrider
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Jul 02, 2015

Water weight distribution debate question

I have a 2015 crossroads z218td that has the front deck for toys. When I weighed it with toys on, my tongue weight was 1280 lbs. Here is the debate I am in with my brother. By adding a full water tank, which is towards the rear and holds 50 gals., will it ease up some of the tongue weight even though it is a tandem axle or does it just add ballast weight? I will be answering my own question this weekend just to find the correct answer but I thought I would post it in here to hear some of everyone else's thoughts before I find the actual readings.

Ready, go....
  • morphrider wrote:
    Old biscuit has it pretty close. I weighed truck on scale, disconnected trailer. Then went 2 blocks to my house and filled it with water, went straight back to the scale. It weighed 80lbs less than before. Truck weighed the same (6040lbs) both times.


    S.W.A.G. (Scientific Wild Azz Guess) :B

    Didn't know how far back tank was from axles.
    Simple lever fulcrum equation
  • Old biscuit has it pretty close. I weighed truck on scale, disconnected trailer. Then went 2 blocks to my house and filled it with water, went straight back to the scale. It weighed 80lbs less than before. Truck weighed the same (6040lbs) both times.
  • Thats kind of what my theory was concerning the weight movement. My brother sides with just plain ballast weight. I know when I have 2 quads on deck, 2 full propane tanks, and 2 batteries I am right at 1280lbs. Thats with no water. I dont think I will load up everything for this test. I will go down to the scale, weigh the tongue then go the 2 blocks to my house and fill up with water. Then with that difference I can do the math and know how much will be removed from the tongue weight when loaded.
  • Ivylog's avatar
    Ivylog
    Explorer III
    Tandem or single axle makes no difference (assuming they are not torque flex axles and the frame remains level) it's a simple lever equation. If the 415 pounds of water is the same distance from the center of the two axles it will take that amount of weight off of the tongue. You could even change both weights to foot-pounds by multiplying the distance from the center of the axles for a more accurate answeer. If torque flex axles then the distance is measured from the axle closest to the weight.

    In order to move a long building on a short trailer I added two 55 gallon barrels of water to the tongue so I would have enough tongue weight.
  • 50 gallons of water........415#

    Added behind rear axle on tandem axle trailer might lower tongue weight by 50#