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2013 Leprechaun water leak problems

GollyCollie
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My wife and I bought a new 2013 Leprechaun 317SA that we like a lot except we have very bad water leak issue in it. The front cap on our unit, and apparently on a lot of 2013 Leprechauns, was mounted improperly and it allows water to leak in and collect inside he front cap. This water that pools in the front cap then spills over into the hollow bunk deck and goes from there. I discovered the problem when I turned a corner and water showered down on my head! The dealer has made several attempts to correct the problem over the past 4 months, but each attempt has been a failure. Currently they have the front cap totally off of my unit so they can replace the bunk that has been damaged by the water. We are waiting for the bunk from the factory and they are giving me an estimate of 3-4 weeks before it is here. Once the dealer pulled the front cap off they found that the cap was mounted with non-water resistant, double face tape and then simply sealed around the edge with silicon. if the silicon seal is breached in any way, water comes right in and collects in the cap. According to the dealer, they have several more Leprechauns on their lot that are the same way and have water leak problems. This tells me that there must be a lot of them out there.

I think that my dealer is doing the best he can do to make my coach right but I am getting very frustrated with it. I am making payments on an RV that I can't use. I also know from sad experience what water can to do a motorhome and don't want to repeat it.

I would be very interested to hear about anyone else with a new Leprechaun that is having water leak issues so we can compare notes. Maybe I can help you with what I have learned too.
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Buffettphan
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All I can say is WOW!!!!

What a shame thus has happened to you. I was hopeful that this new front molded cap would eliminate water intrusion. Maybe it has but clearly coming from elsewhere. I wonder if all brands are suffering the same problems..

Coachman should be hiving you a new rig and taking that one and dissecting it...

Are coach mans prone to more leaks than other?
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GollyCollie
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It has been 11 weeks today that my New Leprechaun has been in the shop. I went there this morning to check on progress. The paint seems to be complete and looks pretty good as far as I can tell. I went inside and it looks like there has been no progress on the interior. I also saw that the Sealtech machine was sitting inside and had been being used again. I spoke with the technician that has been doing a lot of the work to get an update on where we were at. I like him a lot and I think he is being honest with me which I appreciate. He told me that as a result of the sprinkler testing they did they are still finding water intrusion, and that is why they have the Sealtech machine back in the unit. He told me they found several more small leaks farther back and that the water from those leaks eventually migrates forward and ends up in the cap. I am either the worlds unluckiest person or Coachmen has a real problem with their Leprechaun series and I hope that I can make others who own Leprechaunโ€™s aware so they keep an eye out for the problem. I am attaching links to two videos. One was taken several months ago when we first discovered how bad the water problem was, and the second was taken today showing where we are now. What a nightmare this has been.
Several months ago.
Progress as of 11/16/2013.

vanGogh
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Good luck with it and thanks for keeping us posted.

burlmart
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I have wanted to post to you from the beginning of your thread, but your level-headedness is so superior to most of us that I needed to be quiet.

I think your MH is fixed, and I hope you are able to be remunerated for the notes paid while it was repaired.

It is a great looking MH and what you liked about it can now be enjoyed.
2005 Trail Lite 213 B-Plus w/ 6.0 Chevy

GollyCollie
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I went to visit my motorhome yesterday. The paint appears to be complete and it looks nice from what I could see. They had the water running on the roof again. I have to say that they are doing lots of testing, which is good. The real test of how it will keep water out will come 6 months or a year down the line after it has been driven a lot and the front end has had plenty of opportunity to twist and flex. I hope the changes they made will stand the test of time. I will certainly monitor the situation as time goes by. Because of the water running, I wasnโ€™t able to go inside but from looking through the front window it appears that they have not started the interior finishing work but that shouldnโ€™t take long. We are VERY anxious to go camping!

GollyCollie
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I hate to keep this thread alive, but it is a never ending story. My Leprechaun is still in the shop. Tomorrow will make 10 weeks this time. (Plus 3 payments to Bank of America.) As of last Saturday it was in the paint booth. I talked to the young man doing the paint work and I think he is doing a good job. They still have a lot to do finishing the interior. I think they will get it done right and it will look good, but I wish it was done. I am going for my weekly visit tomorrow so I will update this thread after that.

GollyCollie
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CT51 wrote:
I removed the trim piece and all was dry, but the insulation was missing, so someone was in there indicating it must have leaked at some point. CT51


If that insulation is gone, your are correct that you have had water at some point, which means that the bunk deck has also been wet. While you have that piece of trim off, peek inside at the front of the bunk deck and see if you have any mold there. Mine had a lot of black mold on it, and if you see it on the outside then you can bet it is also on the inside. That deck is hollow. Black mold is nothing to mess with, especially in a small, enclosed area like a motorhome. Check it out. Its a hard area to see. I found mine by using a camera to shoot back against front of the bunk deck. (See Picture.)

CT51
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Thanks for your reply. Mine is identical to yours (bunk, not an entertainment center). I removed the trim piece and all was dry, but the insulation was missing, so someone was in there indicating it must have leaked at some point. I will do as you suggested-remove the trim piece and let the RV sit in a downpour while I look for a leak. I don't think a sprinkler can flood the entire roof enough to uncover any possible route for the water to take. Just need a day of heavy rain and a good book. Wish us both luck!

CT51

GollyCollie
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CT51 wrote:
Just wondering how the repairs came out?


Thanks for asking because tomorrow will make 9 weeks that my Leprechaun has been in the shop. It is still there. I spoke with the dealer yesterday and they are starting to paint and do the finishing stuff. After 5 fix attempts and close to a cumulative 4 months in the shop, I hope they finally have it right. Part of the problem with mine is that it leaked so much that there was water damage that needed to be repaired. Pretty sad for a coach that I bought new in March. I sometimes wonder if this was the last coach that came down the line and they just used what was left over.

My suggestion for you is to keep a very close watch on the area above your cab. On the front side of your bunk deck there is a piece of vinyl covered trim that that connects the bunk deck with the front wall. It is maybe 6 or 8 inches wide and is only held in place by a few screws. Take those screws out and leave them out. (See picture.) The trim will stay in place without them. Each time it rains, drop that piece of trim down and it will expose the bottom inside of the front fiberglass cap. There is some fiberglass insulation in there. That is where the water pools and once it gets deep enough it seeps into the bunk deck, filling it with water and ruining it. Even it the cap is sealed around its edge well, I think that the normal flex causes it to open up and there is nothing to stop it. The best thing you can do is inspect those seals and monitor the cap for water. It is either a very poor design or very poor workmanship or poor quality control or all three. I hope you don't have an entertainment center in the cab over. I don't know what would happen with that. After my warrantee is up I seriously think I will install a drain plug in the bottom of the front fiberglass cap so I can drain it like a cooler. If that water doesn't pool up and just runs through it wouldn't cause nearly as much damage.

There are a lot of these Leprechauns out there I am sure and you are lucky to be aware of the problem. My dealer has told me they have had several and they have to work on them before they go out. I feel sorry for the owners that discover it a year from now. They will be told that it is their fault for not doing proper roof maintenance is my guess. If you know other Leprechaun owners or potential owners, let them know.

CT51
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Just wondering how the repairs came out? I have a 2014 Leprechaun. It appeared to have had some repair work done in the areas mentioned. Specifically, you can see where Pro Flex has been applied around and under the junction of the awning rails and the trim pieces that extend down the cab over. There are no leaks presently, and I questioned the selling dealer, who assures me that they have done no repairs to the unit while it was on there lot. (which was two months). Their only explanation was that Coachmen must have caught a leak and made the repair, or done it as a preventive measure. Maybe they have started to respond to the problem. Any other input from Leprechaun owners regarding front cap leaks, sealing techniques etc would be appreciated. For those that recommended Eternabond, that doesn't really apply, as it appears the water is funneled directly into the molding from the awning rail.

hotbyte
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Hope they get it right and you get to enjoy years of use in it!
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GollyCollie
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I apologize in advance for this long post. Yesterday I went to visit my Leprechaun in the dealers shop. As of yesterday it has been there 7 weeks. That is 2 payments to Bank of America and 7 missed camping weekends. On the bright side, I do think they are doing it right this time. When I got there I found my coach outside the service area with a lawn sprinkler running on top of it. I spoke with the technician who has been working on it and he told me that they have been watering it since Thursday and they intend to let it keep running the rest of the weekend. I noticed that the final seal of the trim has not been done and he explained that he was testing the putty tape seal because that is the primary seal, and after he is satisfied that it is holding he will do the finishing seal that makes it look pretty. That way if the outside seal fails, the inner seal will still keep the water out. I went inside and inspected the inside of the cap and it is bone dry. The one thing that this sprinkler test does not test is how everything holds in a driving rain, like it is when you are driving, but at least they are trying. The young man working on my coach seems to want to make it right and I appreciate that. I think there is a good possibility they will have it ready for me to pick up next weekend but I could be wrong. I donโ€™t want them to rush it through the finishing stages since I have waited this long. I want it right. Next Saturday will be 8 weeks in the shop this trip.

The dealer received notification that I am filing a claim under Floridaโ€™s Lemon Law this week because I received the return receipt, so I assume that Coachmen received theirs too. According to my attorney, filing that claim is important even though it appears they will fix the water problem. If that problem reoccurs in the future we will be able to go to arbitration at that time. I hope we donโ€™t have to do that. In a lot of ways I feel fortunate that this water issue manifested and I discovered it when I did. I honestly believe that this is a wide spread issue in this coach that most folks wonโ€™t discover until they are out of warranty and they will face this on their own. If I was paying for this repair I have no idea what it would cost, but I am sure it would be thousands.

Two weeks ago the dealership approached me about trading the Leprechaun for a like new used class A they have, and I considered it. I looked at the class A, which is nice, but it has a 75โ€ bed that doesnโ€™t work for my 6โ€™5โ€ body, so I declined that offer. They also carry Tiffin products at one of their other locations. Tiffinโ€™s are nice coaches and they all have 80โ€ beds, so I put together an offer where they would give me in trade for the Leprechaun exactly what I paid for it, and then in a second transaction I made an offer on a new Tiffin. The offer on the Tiffin was somewhere around 25% off of the MSRP which is probably low but it was a place to start. My expectation was that they would make a counter offer of some sort but instead I received an email from the general manager where he stated that I was looking for them to buy back the Leprechaun for what I paid for it and then some. Well duhhh, I wasnโ€™t looking for more than we have in it, but exactly what we have in it, and why wouldnโ€™t I? I bought a new product from him with certain expectations that have not been met as of yet. It was after that response from him that I filed the Lemon Law complaint.

noe-place
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Let me throw in my 2cts on cap leaks. I have an 04 Itasca Spirit (Winnebago) which has the cap window. Just this summer it started to leak enough for water to get in on the passenger side of the cap bed. DW noticed it so I took it to our local service center. They said there was a gasket behind the window that could be replaced but once they had the window out the gasket was found to be a permanent part of the cap and to replace it would have called for cutting around the opening. Naturally I wasn't going to allow any "remodeling" so I had them replace the window and thoroughly reseal everything. Took a trip then washed it and NO LEAKS. I wish you luck with yours.

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mwebber78 wrote:
No - the Forester and Sunseeker have a different cap and the rails don't terminate at the cap seam which is a lousy design. The two models also feature a fiberglass roof...


mwebber78 -

Could you expand on your comments above? You might recognize my screen name. We have a '13 Sunseeker. Reading this thread has me terrified. Are the Forester / Sunseekers really different than the Leprechauns? I ask because I went to CoachmenRV.com, looked at the Leprechaun front cap pictured there, & it looks 100% identical to the Sunseeker. Really concerned that they may share the same build underneath too. Thanks!
All previous rigs below are sold - waiting until the kids graduate to the buy the next one!
'13 Forest River Sunseeker 3100 Class C
'04 Fleetwood Sedona Pop Up / Reese Mini 350 / Prodigy / BAL
'94 Coleman Cedar Pop Up

DaHose
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Your situation completely SUCKS!!!!!!!

I hope that at the very least the unit gets fixed water tight soon and that you get your warranty extended and compensation for all this time you haven't been able to enjoy your RV.

Jose