hohenwald48 wrote:
Yeah, I'm going to check with Ford but I was hoping to find them on line and avoid a trip to town. I'll let you know what happens. I've looked at everything else and can not find the source of the popping with body roll. Z bracket is my next try. I sure can't see that it will potentially cause any harm.
Once I get the popping resolved I'll move forward with the CHF but don't want to make too many changes at one time.
hohenwald48 wrote:Effy wrote:hohenwald48 wrote:Effy wrote:
I haven't ever heard of anyone installing the Z brackets on the front bottom. I don't want to add doom and gloom but that seems a little risky. If you have popping I would identify the root cause of that and not modify the design to attempt to cover it up. Might be a recipe for failure. But that's me. You'll notice, each place there is a Z bracket there are 2 bolts to secure the connection. If you add it to the bottom you can't do that. Because it's not designed to go there. Not to mention it would add another point of flex which may erode any advantage you had of doing chf in the first place. Good luck.
I guess I just don't understand your concern. Mounting Z brackets on the front bottom would be exactly like they are mounted on the rear bottom. Using the existing link bolt and the extra hole in the sway bar. you can see the hole in the first picture. How is the front and rear different?
I don't think the extra hole in the bottom is for a Z bracket. I think it's simply to move the adjustment. I have never seen it done. Seems like if it was supposed to be there it would already be there. Not saying it can't be done I have just have never seen or heard about it and wondering if there is any benefit to doing it versus risk.
Read my response at the top of page 3. I guess we were typing at the same time.
Effy wrote:hohenwald48 wrote:Effy wrote:
I haven't ever heard of anyone installing the Z brackets on the front bottom. I don't want to add doom and gloom but that seems a little risky. If you have popping I would identify the root cause of that and not modify the design to attempt to cover it up. Might be a recipe for failure. But that's me. You'll notice, each place there is a Z bracket there are 2 bolts to secure the connection. If you add it to the bottom you can't do that. Because it's not designed to go there. Not to mention it would add another point of flex which may erode any advantage you had of doing chf in the first place. Good luck.
I guess I just don't understand your concern. Mounting Z brackets on the front bottom would be exactly like they are mounted on the rear bottom. Using the existing link bolt and the extra hole in the sway bar. you can see the hole in the first picture. How is the front and rear different?
I don't think the extra hole in the bottom is for a Z bracket. I think it's simply to move the adjustment. I have never seen it done. Seems like if it was supposed to be there it would already be there. Not saying it can't be done I have just have never seen or heard about it and wondering if there is any benefit to doing it versus risk.
hohenwald48 wrote:Effy wrote:
I haven't ever heard of anyone installing the Z brackets on the front bottom. I don't want to add doom and gloom but that seems a little risky. If you have popping I would identify the root cause of that and not modify the design to attempt to cover it up. Might be a recipe for failure. But that's me. You'll notice, each place there is a Z bracket there are 2 bolts to secure the connection. If you add it to the bottom you can't do that. Because it's not designed to go there. Not to mention it would add another point of flex which may erode any advantage you had of doing chf in the first place. Good luck.
I guess I just don't understand your concern. Mounting Z brackets on the front bottom would be exactly like they are mounted on the rear bottom. Using the existing link bolt and the extra hole in the sway bar. you can see the hole in the first picture. How is the front and rear different?
Effy wrote:
I haven't ever heard of anyone installing the Z brackets on the front bottom. I don't want to add doom and gloom but that seems a little risky. If you have popping I would identify the root cause of that and not modify the design to attempt to cover it up. Might be a recipe for failure. But that's me. You'll notice, each place there is a Z bracket there are 2 bolts to secure the connection. If you add it to the bottom you can't do that. Because it's not designed to go there. Not to mention it would add another point of flex which may erode any advantage you had of doing chf in the first place. Good luck.
Effy wrote:
Not really sure what you are talking about. There are no Z brackets on the bottom of the front - where you would be doing the actual work. Maybe yours is unique. And I am not sure how they would be at the top either. The front sway bar is sort of a U shape that goes through bushings on the frame. There is no Z bracket bolted connection point. Are you sure you are looking at the sway bar?
You are correct. There are no Z brackets on the bottom of the front. Hence the question regarding a source for the brackets to hopefully resolve my popping from the front.
I do have Z brackets on the top and bottom of the rear sway bar and Z brackets on the top of the front link. I'm wanting to install Z brackets on the bottom of the front link. The rear bottom Z brackets are installed using the extra hole in the sway bar. I would install the front bottom Z bracket similarly using the extra hole in the front sway bar the same as the rear.
Also, the sway bars on mine are mounted thru bushings attached to the axle and not to the frame as you described.
I suppose I could post pictures. However, you can rest assured that I have Z brackets on both link ends on the rear and only on the top end of the front links.
