I can tell you that our old HR without DEF but had the DPF used to regenerate about once every 8000 miles or so and usually at the start of a season after being off road for 2 months in winter..You could practically set your watch by it and it would last 20 minutes...I have about 13000 miles or more (I honestly don't remember) on this coach using DEF and have yet to see a regen light, but 80 to 90 percent driving is all highway at my magic spot of 63 mph. I also really don't let it needlessly idle to build up the DPF.