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cbr46
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Oct 10, 2013

Frozen bolts

I posted this on page 4 in Tech Issues but thought Class A owners might not read over there, so this is a new thread with the same text. I apologize for the double post.

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I have a few (almost all of them) shock bolts that my pneumatic impact won't loosen. I don't recall what kind it is (similar to a Campbell Hausfield) but knowing me when I bought it I didn't spend a lot of money on it. I'll guess a quoted 250 ft-lbs @ 90 psi. Even with repeated soakings of PB Blaster, hammering with a hand impact and 2 different torches one easily accessed bolt wouldn't budge. 18" breaker with another 12" leverage just laughed at me (big smile in the bar).

So I'm faced with taking the moho to a truck shop and giving them my green or buying a better tool for the job. I hate being beaten, I'm leaning the latter. Besides, who can resist buying a new tool?

I looked at the Harbor-Freight electric varieties. I don't think 230 ft-lbs will do the job, especially when ALL the specs I'm looking at are best case scenarios. Beyond simple tools & supplies I've not been impressed with HF.

Milwaukee Electric units seem to be overpriced for the ft-lbs they deliver. 300 ft-lbs @ $179

DeWalt DW292 / DW293 electrics have 345 ft-lb in a price point I can sit down with, barely. $139 Amazon

Craftsman 9-19984 pneumatic is quoting 580 ft-lbs (I hope at 90 psi) on Amazon for $110. I'm guessing that's enough for any frozen bolt.

Ingersoll-Rand 2135TiMAX pneumatic is porking out at 750 ft-lbs. The price porks out too at $259. Might do more damage than good with this one?

Also, the wheel lugs seem to be a loose fit for 7/8" socket (2002 Ford F53 chassis). Could these be metric?

Electric impact would be more convenient. For $30 less I get 235 more ft-lbs of torque and more confidence in getting the job done. I just need to haul the compressor from the basement.

1 1/8" socket, don't know the bolt size without crawling back under. Is 580 ft-lbs enough for rusted suspension bolts?

Best,
- bob
  • cbr46,
    "Stuck Bolts" have been an enemy of man, since the beginning of time. Many "tough" gents have been defeated by frozen bolts/nuts. The ability of a loosening agent, like PB Blaster, Kroil, WD-40, and a whole host of more of them, may or may not work. It all depends on just how much rust/corrosion has taken place and, for how long.

    In actuality, I've not had a ton of luck with loosening agents. But, that's just me. Anyway, air tools, especially the lower cost ones, are generally over rated. The value of a good air tool, especially a big name unit like C/P or Blue Point (Snap On) or MAC, etc. is directly related to cost. You get what you pay for. The techs at dealerships etc. need to get their work done and not goof around with chincy tools. So, they PAY.

    Now, a DIY kind of guy like you and me, well, paying upwards of a $1000.00 for 1/2" impact gun is not in the picture, never will be. So we get the best we can afford. The tools you're looking at as potentials, are listed at moderately stronger than the one you already have.

    If it were me, and you think you might be encountering more bolts/nuts of that "stubbornness", I'd go for nothing less than about 600-700 ftlbs of torque on gun. That's minimum. Yes, you might have to pay a bit more than you'd like but, you'd have a tool that will work for all of your future projects. Just a thought here.
    Scott
  • Check local rental shops. I bet you can find one to twist off the bolt, if not the nut. You might also consider a nut splitter.
  • The bolts on my shocks could not be loosened by my mechanic with air tools alone. He had to heat the nuts to get them loose.