Holding Tanks

Skid Row Joe wrote:

Mr.Mark wrote:
Doug, I feel you have excellent technical experience and I enjoy reading your recommendations and solutions to problems. It was 'emphasized' to us at delivery to only take the coach to a Prevost service center for engine/drivetrain/service and back to the converter for house repairs.

A tech that is not familiar with our type of electrical systems (24 volt AND 12 volt) could cause more problems than they fix. And, our coach has three Lithium Ion batteries for house and regular batteries for starting and genny.

Safe travels to all,
MM.

Mark, does every service of the coach portion need to be returned to Indiana, or wherever Liberty is located?

Why did you choose the H configurated coach rather than the full, flat floor to the driver's seat?

Our coach converter prefers that the house warranty items be done in Florida at there service facility/showroom. The building process is done in Chicago and they would certainly accept the coach there to have work done. After the warranty expires, you can take it to any repair facility that specialized in conversions. I would like to use Liberty for any future house issues as they are the folks that built it and know it inside and out. If there was an emergency situation, Liberty would suggest a good repair center for whatever we are looking to have fixed.

There are 200+ Prevost service centers around the USA. When in California, I would go to Mira Loma which is about 75 miles from my CA home, in TN... Nashville, which is 200 miles from my home there..... and in FL.... Jacksonville, if I needed Prevost service while visiting the Liberty showroom in Stuart, FL. There is also a Prevost service center in Ft. Worth, TX, where I had them check a couple of things on my drive from TN to CA.

As far as the chassis choice, we wanted four slides, the XLIII chassis only offers two slides. Because the 'H3-45' chassis has 4 steps to the driver area and 3 steps to the 'salon' (as they call it), we had two sofa's opposing each other for max seating. We also chose the J-booth dining table set-up so that we could watch TV while eating (nobody's back to the TV).

MM.

Mr.Mark wrote:
Doug, I feel you have excellent technical experience and I enjoy reading your recommendations and solutions to problems. It was 'emphasized' to us at delivery to only take the coach to a Prevost service center for engine/drivetrain/service and back to the converter for house repairs.

A tech that is not familiar with our type of electrical systems (24 volt AND 12 volt) could cause more problems than they fix. And, our coach has three Lithium Ion batteries for house and regular batteries for starting and genny.

Safe travels to all,
MM.

Mark,

Wondering, does every service of the coach portion need to be returned to Indiana, or wherever Liberty is located?

Wondering why did you choose the H configured coach rather than the full, flat floor to the driver's seat? Are the holding tanks of greater capacity with the H configuration? What are some of the other advantages or differences you've noticed with the H?

revised post.......

Doug, I feel you have excellent technical experience and I enjoy reading your recommendations and solutions to problems. It was 'emphasized' to us at delivery to only take the coach to a Prevost service center for engine/drivetrain/service and back to the converter for house repairs.

A tech that is not familiar with our type of electrical systems (24 volt AND 12 volt) could cause more problems than they fix. And, our coach has three Lithium Ion batteries for house and regular batteries for starting and genny.

Safe travels to all,
MM.

DanTheRVMan wrote:

dougrainer wrote:

Mr.Mark wrote:

Harvard wrote:
189 gallons of water would weigh about 1890 lbs which would need a strong support structure that would be difficult to achieve in a below chassis hanging tank.

Dutch is right, our holding tanks are in a bay and are all stainless steel. Our fuel tank holds 230 gallons of diesel and the DEF tank holds 16 gallons.

The 'one' holding tank would not work for small applications.

MM.

Mr Mark's motorhome is WAY out of the standard Class A. I do not even put his motorhome in this Class A type forum. His systems are not even close to Standard Class A systems and features. As to Gray and Black plumbing, the comments are all way off. The ONLY reason a Gray sink appliance would be routed to the Black tank is- THE FLOOR PLAN INHIBITS THE ROUTING OF THE DRAIN PIPES TO THE GRAY TANK. There is NO rule or law that states ONLY gray can go to gray and not to a black tank. This is especially true of Triple E motorhomes. OEM's will route all gray to the gray tank if the floor plan will allow it. They do NOT do it as a convenience factor to get more water into the black tank. If you feel you need more water to a black tank, just use MORE water in the bowl when using it or flush longer. Doug

:S

Mr Mark has a class A

He just has a VERY NICE class A

His systems do not resemble ANY of the type Class A systems that are reported on these forums. He DOES have a very nice Class A, but his is the Rolls Royce while all the systems here are Cadillac down to Chevy. I have 35 years experience working on Class A motorhomes, but would not attempt to work on Prevost type motorhomes. I have, but only for the appliances that happen to be the same as regular Class A type motorhomes. Doug

Mr.Mark wrote:

RayChez wrote:
I guess that Prevost has a manual valve that you can close if you do not want the grey water to go to the one tank which is black and grey??? But even at that most RV parks will not allow grey water on the ground, not even BLM will allow it, but that is another subject to be discussed on another thread.

I really can't see any reason to use the grey water by-pass for our use. We could connect a hose to the grey water by-pass connection and run a hose to the sewer outlet allowing all grey to exit there. That would reduce water adding to the 'black material' if that is a desire.

Again, we would really have no need to use the grey water by-pass with a 189 gallon holding tank. In our previous coach with a 70 gallon grey, 40 gallon black and 100 gallon fresh, and when I would join my RV group in Quartzsite for 5 days, I would only use 50 gallons of fresh water and not even fill the black and grey tanks to half full.

We could go quite a while with our current holding tank if we conserve. Also, we have no manual valves per se, all are air actuated for normal use. I could use the manual cut-off valves in the plumbing manifold if a problem arose.

MM.

Yes that coach you have is really something. Tops in the luxury A Class coaches. I agree that is one big holding tank. And I do not think you would want to dump even the grey water out in our fragile desert.

RayChez wrote:
I guess that Prevost has a manual valve that you can close if you do not want the grey water to go to the one tank which is black and grey??? But even at that most RV parks will not allow grey water on the ground, not even BLM will allow it, but that is another subject to be discussed on another thread.

I really can't see any reason to use the grey water by-pass for our use. We could connect a hose to the grey water by-pass connection and run a hose to the sewer outlet allowing all grey to exit there. That would reduce water adding to the 'black material' if that is a desire.

Again, we would really have no need to use the grey water by-pass with a 189 gallon holding tank. In our previous coach with a 70 gallon grey, 40 gallon black and 100 gallon fresh, and when I would join my RV group in Quartzsite for 5 days, I would only use 50 gallons of fresh water and not even fill the black and grey tanks to half full.

We could go quite a while with our current holding tank if we conserve. Also, we have no manual valves per se, all are air actuated for normal use. I could use the manual cut-off valves in the plumbing manifold if a problem arose.

MM.

Thank you DanTheRVMan, the new baby is a nice running machine that I'm still learning the systems. Most electronics run from an ipad. It's nice to empty the holding tank without going outside (as long as the hose is connected)..... air valves are sweet.

Doug is right as our coach is not the 'norm', it's still a nice camper.

MM.

I guess that Prevost has a manual valve that you can close if you do not want the grey water to go to the one tank which is black and grey??? But even at that most RV parks will not allow grey water on the ground, not even BLM will allow it, but that is another subject to be discussed on another thread.

dougrainer wrote:

Mr.Mark wrote:

Harvard wrote:
189 gallons of water would weigh about 1890 lbs which would need a strong support structure that would be difficult to achieve in a below chassis hanging tank.

Dutch is right, our holding tanks are in a bay and are all stainless steel. Our fuel tank holds 230 gallons of diesel and the DEF tank holds 16 gallons.

The 'one' holding tank would not work for small applications.

MM.

Mr Mark's motorhome is WAY out of the standard Class A. I do not even put his motorhome in this Class A type forum. His systems are not even close to Standard Class A systems and features. As to Gray and Black plumbing, the comments are all way off. The ONLY reason a Gray sink appliance would be routed to the Black tank is- THE FLOOR PLAN INHIBITS THE ROUTING OF THE DRAIN PIPES TO THE GRAY TANK. There is NO rule or law that states ONLY gray can go to gray and not to a black tank. This is especially true of Triple E motorhomes. OEM's will route all gray to the gray tank if the floor plan will allow it. They do NOT do it as a convenience factor to get more water into the black tank. If you feel you need more water to a black tank, just use MORE water in the bowl when using it or flush longer. Doug

:S

Mr Mark has a class A

He just has a VERY NICE class A