Induction cook tops in most new Coaches?

[DwnSth]

We're in the market for a diesel pusher within the next year - finally making the jump from travel trailer. While at the Tampa show last week, we noticed almost all new diesel coaches seem to have the induction ranges. I've had a hard enough time convincing myself that the residential fridge will not consume all my battery capacity but the induction cook top can't possibly be expected to run on the battery bank. Why have the manufactures gone this route? It's nearly impossible to find gas fridge anymore, now the induction range has become a deal killer for us. The Tiffen Red was the only one we found that actually had both gas fridge and gas range still available. Are there any others brands out there or has the industry simply moved on? Not sure why anyone would need the 4 coach batteries and solar any longer when it seems you will be forced into full hookup or running the generator.

Of course, coming from TT and not wanting to use generator every day I may simply be missing the point. Still like to dry camp and keep gen. use to minimum.

Wish the manufacturers would offer gas fridge and range at least as options.

[old_guy]

as an old firefighter, open flame bad. induction stove good. I like the new induction stoves. I bet that many people who have had kitchen fires wish they had them years ago. one thing you did not mention is the fact that all the coaches with induction stoves have no ovens. they rely on the convection microwaves

[MetalGator]

Basically, if you can stick a magnet to the pot or pan, it will work on an induction stove. Not in all cases, but 90% of the time.

I could see how the induction stove wouldn't be a wanted option if most of my camping was boon docking.

[pianotuna]

Have you actually measured the consumption? My NuWave on the highest possible setting draws 1300 watts or about 12 amps. However run times are not terribly long--so possibly it might use 30 amp-hours per day.

Blaster Man wrote:
Same for the Induction cook top, it uses more than the refer, but is much better and safer than propane.

[dougrainer]

jorbill2or wrote:
Induction is a different game than the old radiant glass tops , very efficient. Many pro cooks now prefer them
These coaches all have a generator and in fact I don’t believe most will run the cooktop with the inverter batteries they must be plugged in or generator running . A 1-2 hour run in the am .. make breakfast ?? fast charge up the batteries and a 1-2 hour run at dinner .. same thing. Guess I don’t get buying a big fuel hogging coach and then not using the generator for what is was meant for
I get being quiet .. I added1000 watts of solar but ....still need run the very expensive Generator just to exercise it so why not ? You can’t take a whole house of comfort with you and not use some power ... isn’t that what tent camping was ?:) I still have the propane on the latest coach but wouldn’t miss it

Most INDUCTION come with the required Pots and Pans to work on Induction as regular pans will not. We have had 2 customers that even after explaining the difference, threw away the Induction Pots and pans and purchased Non Induction pans and then came back stating the Induction Cooktop would not work:S Doug

[Lwiddis]

"I imagine the vast majority of class A, or any camping unit, never set foot off the pavement of a hookup providing campground."

Thankfully I believe Gordon is right thus leaving more space for campers such as me! Oh my god a night out in the REAL dark? Without another RV three feet away from your RV? No WiFi?

[jorbill2or]

Induction is a different game than the old radiant glass tops , very efficient. Many pro cooks now prefer them
These coaches all have a generator and in fact I don’t believe most will run the cooktop with the inverter batteries they must be plugged in or generator running . A 1-2 hour run in the am .. make breakfast ?? fast charge up the batteries and a 1-2 hour run at dinner .. same thing. Guess I don’t get buying a big fuel hogging coach and then not using the generator for what is was meant for
I get being quiet .. I added1000 watts of solar but ....still need run the very expensive Generator just to exercise it so why not ? You can’t take a whole house of comfort with you and not use some power ... isn’t that what tent camping was ?:) I still have the propane on the latest coach but wouldn’t miss it

[mike_brez]

No propane would be a big let down for me. Love cooking with gas and also run my BBQ grill,pizza oven turkey fryer and gas light with coaches tank. Hate everything about microwave from heating to baking in it.

[MetalGator]

I am surprised to see people saying the induction is slow to heat and slow to cool down. Maybe these stoves differ by make and model. I can get a large pot of water boiling on our induction stove in a little over 2 minutes. I can take that pot off the stovetop and put my hand on the glass 20-30 seconds later and it's barely warm. When I first saw these stoves in the motorhomes I thought they were just the regular glass top electric stoves (which I do not like). When something boils over and gets on the glass top on the induction, you just wipe it off. The glass tops don't get hot so nothing burns to them. The stove only heats the pan, not the surface area of the glass stove top.

[Bigdog]

If a manufacturer puts all electric units out there then that's what the public is gonna buy. I have no oven as we don't normally bake things on the road and the Convection/micro is great for our needs. I have a propane stove and love it and wish I had natural gas at home, but no, dumb me had to go buy a POS induction range and it is slow to heat and slow to cool down, adjusts itself temp wise and is HARD TO KEEP CLEAN.
Another reason you see residential fridges in motorhomes is that it's cheaper for the manufacturer to run the wiring, install a bigger inverter and install the fridge. than having to pipe it for gas,12V and 110 and install the much more expensive 3 way fridge. Then they market it as the latest thing out there along with the induction cooktop.
My warranty people actually asked me if I wanted to change over to a residential fridge last time the cooling coils went out on my side by side, because it was cheaper than replacing the cooling system. The labor was the same,but the replacement fridge was $2500 less.

[dougrainer]

1. Manufacturers GIVE/OFFER what the majority want. So, on Motorhomes that have NO LP gas(all electric) you will find Induction Cook tops
2. High end units 200k and above will offer Induction as a lot of the customers want it. Sure, there are some that want and like LP ovens/ranges, but the OEM's have determined they are in the minority.
3. They LOOK a lot better when you look thru the units and most RV'ers would not be looking at the Range/Oven when they are specing out a new unit.
4. LP OVENS have been gone from most Class A motorhomes for over 10 years. The expect the Convection Oven to take the place of the Oven and it has.
5. My understanding is on non all electric and the unit has LP, you can problem option the LP range top, or the LP is standard and most dealers are optioning the Induction
6. NO induction is wired to an Inverter on sub 500k units. Genset or Shore Power only. Doug

[wa8yxm]

Well the demo units are "What the public wants" as a general rule.. That is most of the public. There is a song (Does not really apply save for the title): When I was a boy.. By Frank Hayes as I recall (I know Frank he helped me get into public singing. and as a result of that I know a lot of songs).

I grew up with Propane in the kitchen.. So I do not FEAR it. Respect yes. FEAR no. and later with natural gas in the Kitchen and furnace. (More or less the same dangers).

But many FEAR propane. and induction is more efficient. However not all pots and pans work on Induction.. About half of mine do.

Oh. I use multiple burners, Propane, Induction, Trditional hot wire.

[Ivylog]

All electric coaches do not have propane and they are not really all electric...they have diesel and electric heating. The DW loves her portable induction cooktop (very efficient) and I do not remember when she has used the propane stove. Anytime you are going to use a high amp appliance you crank the diesel generator, partly to charge the batteries instead discharging them.

My BEST mod (should have done it sooner) is replacing my NoCold 1200 with a 21 cuft residential refrigerator that draws 1 amp AC or 8 amps DC (96 watts) when running less than half the time. These big rigs need 1-2 hours of generator time/day even without a residential so with enough added charging amps and two more batteries my generator run time has gone down.

[DutchmenSport]

RLS7201 wrote:
It was noted that "most users usually don't boon dock". Except for many thousand of us in Quartzsite or Death Valley or Slab City or along I8 in CA or along az95 between Lake Havasu and Quartzsite or in the casino parking lots all over the south west. or or or or.....

Richard

No, you missread. Not USERS... MANUFACTURERS ... who assume $200,000 caches will be sitting in resorts, not on desert grounds off the grid. They've missed the boat.

[RLS7201]

It was noted that "most users usually don't boon dock". Except for many thousand of us in Quartzsite or Death Valley or Slab City or along I8 in CA or along az95 between Lake Havasu and Quartzsite or in the casino parking lots all over the south west. or or or or.....

Richard

[Two_Jayhawks]

WAFlowers wrote:

Two Jayhawks wrote:
Induction cooktop is just OK I'll admit gas was better.

Really? I'm not sure how gas is better.

We have a portable 1800W induction burner in the coach alongside the propane burners until we can replace them with an induction cooktop. We actually did a test where we measured the same amount of water into two pots and set them to boil. The induction burner brought the water to boil MUCH faster!

Why do you think propane gas is better?

Hi WAFlowers
Your test results would not jibe with mine. I had a 9000 BTU gas burner & two smaller maybe 7000 BTU burners previously. My current True two burner induction cooktop (powered by 110v) doesn't hold a candle output wise. My only complaint is it is slower to boil a big pot of water, slower to heat for browning, other than that same/same. We use the Magna cookware.