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beckx020
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Jan 06, 2015

Locking wheel nuts - Ford

My friend died 2 weeks ago. Her motorhome is parked but had a flat tire in front. The wheel cover/hubcap won't come off because she has a lock wheel nut. My Motorhome has the same wheel covers, but mine are not locked and I can take them off and put them on. We have this T type thing that is supposed to be a locking nut key/remover. I have never used one of these. I try to put it on and turn it, but it won't turn. Got a stronger man and he couldn't turn it either. Looked on Youtube and they only show Ford Focus or whatever if you lost the key.

We cannot just air up the tire because it's not stuck to the rim anymore. She had white covers over the tires, so I'm not sure how long it has been flat.

The wheel cover is one with the 8 shiny lugs on it. Pretty common for many years. The motorhome is a Shasta class C on a E-450.

So, how do I get this thing off?

Thank you for help.
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  • Dusty_R's avatar
    Dusty_R
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    Jan 15, 2015
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    I took a box end wrench of the right size and heated it with a torch and bent it to a right angle.
    Works fine, with the help of a bar.
  • beckx020's avatar
    beckx020
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    Jan 14, 2015
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    Success! Thank you all!

    What finally worked was a crescent wrench opened all the way and using my foot to push it down to loosen the nut. I could get that to stay toward the base of the nut. I did get a socket which needed a bigger handle. This all was too heavy to stay on well. I had to use my foot since my arms/hands were just not strong enough.

    They got the tire sealed onto the rim, but warned it might not last real long. We just needed to get it to a storage place. Sister will be able to come here in a couple months and stay long enough to get the rig sold etc.

    So, sometimes those useless crescent wrenches actually are useful. :)
  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
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    Jan 08, 2015
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    I took pix of one of our covers today. Same as the ones in CD's excellent photos. All I've said above applies. Look forward to your report!
  • beckx020's avatar
    beckx020
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    Jan 07, 2015
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    CloudDriver yes, this is the kind of cover on my rig and my friend's rig. I didn't get back there today, so I appreciate the pics! (her funeral was today)

    Will be cold and windy and rainy the next few days. So if it gets nice or I'm really bored, I'll get the socket and see what I can do. I will write back here when I have any progress (or not).
  • Butch50's avatar
    Butch50
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    Jan 07, 2015
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    I agree with all on this as thee are usually 2 that hold the cap on. They are not on there to prevent theft of the tire or wheel, they are there to prevent the wheel liner from coming off rolling down the road.

    On my wheel covers I don't have this and after taking off and on a few times the claws that hold them on start to get weaker. So I have gone to the stainless zip ties and put 2 on each wheel cover and through the wheel holes to keep them on. I'm thinking of just taking the liners off except they do look better with them on.
  • CloudDriver's avatar
    CloudDriver
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    Jan 07, 2015
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    Our Class C E450 chassis has wheel covers held in place with two nuts with dimples as shown below. I always tighten them with the T handle wrench because the the two nuts only engage at most two threads on the lug bolt and overtightening would strip the threads. Never had a problem removing the dimpled nuts with the T handle wrench.



    E450 Lug nut - note just two threads available for wheel cover nut. Also note proper torque for lug nut (140 ft lb) stamped into top of nut.
  • j-d's avatar
    j-d
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    Jan 07, 2015
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    IF it's what I think it is, there are six fakes. When you get the cover off you'll see HOW fake. Two opposing ones should be dimpled. And, those two are stuck.
  • beckx020's avatar
    beckx020
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    Jan 07, 2015
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    Thank you all for your replies. I don't think I will be able to get pics tomorrow. But will do my best. I did get back and look. There is one one lug with a dimple on it. However, this one seems like it's part of the wheel cover. When I wiggle it, the cover seems to move with it. A total of 6 of them are like this. There are 2 of them that are opposite each other that are firm and don't wiggle at all. They do not have dimples on them. I have to believe that these are the ones screwed onto the bolts under them.

    So, will have to try to get something to undo them. Or perhaps I can find a tire place that has a replacement tire they will come out and mount for us.

    Don't know how I can get penetrating oil under there.

    Why in the world do they put on something that is so horrible to get off? I don't have them and nobody stole my tires yet. Then again, this is probably why I don't have those things on my wheel covers.

    We will figure it out somehow.
    Again, thank you all!
  • Oldme's avatar
    Oldme
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    Jan 06, 2015
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    I have not seen real wheel locks in years.

    I had some back in 1967 to protect the wheels
    on a Firebird.
    You needed a special Key.

    Are you sure it is a "lock" or are you just seeing
    the fake lug nuts as mentioned above?

    You may need some penetrating oil on them it they have been
    on a long time. Otherwise there is always a hammer and chisel
    then replace the stud and nut.

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Her motorhome is parked but had a flat tire in front. The wheel cover/hubcap won't come off because she has a lock wheel nut. My Motorhome has the same wheel covers, but mine are not locked and I can take them off and put them on. We have this T type thing that is supposed to be a locking nut key/remover. I have never used one of these. I try to put it on and turn it, but it won't turn. Got a stronger man and he couldn't turn it either. Looked on Youtube and they only show Ford Focus or whatever if you lost the key.

We cannot just air up the tire because it's not stuck to the rim anymore. She had white covers over the tires, so I'm not sure how long it has been flat.

The wheel cover is one with the 8 shiny lugs on it. Pretty common for many years. The motorhome is a Shasta class C on a E-450.

So, how do I get this thing off?

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We cannot just air up the tire because it's not stuck to the rim anymore. She had white covers over the tires, so I'm not sure how long it has been flat.

The wheel cover is one with the 8 shiny lugs on it. Pretty common for many years. The motorhome is a Shasta class C on a E-450.

So, how do I get this thing off?

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What finally worked was a crescent wrench opened all the way and using my foot to push it down to loosen the nut. I could get that to stay toward the base of the nut. I did get a socket which needed a bigger handle. This all was too heavy to stay on well. I had to use my foot since my arms/hands were just not strong enough.

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Will be cold and windy and rainy the next few days. So if it gets nice or I'm really bored, I'll get the socket and see what I can do. I will write back here when I have any progress (or not).","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-07T13:34:17.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-07T13:34:17.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1617665/message:1617679","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"358","rawBody":"CloudDriver yes, this is the kind of cover on my rig and my friend's rig. I didn't get back there today, so I appreciate the pics! (her funeral was today)

Will be cold and windy and rainy the next few days. So if it gets nice or I'm really bored, I'll get the socket and see what I can do. I will write back here when I have any progress (or not).","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1617679_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:162618":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:162618","uid":162618,"login":"Butch50","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-06-29T13:22:30.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:162618"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1617678":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1617678","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1617678":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:162618"},"id":"message:1617678","revisionNum":1,"uid":1617678,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1617665"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1617665"},"subject":"Re: Locking wheel nuts - Ford","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1617678"},"body":"I agree with all on this as thee are usually 2 that hold the cap on. They are not on there to prevent theft of the tire or wheel, they are there to prevent the wheel liner from coming off rolling down the road.

On my wheel covers I don't have this and after taking off and on a few times the claws that hold them on start to get weaker. So I have gone to the stainless zip ties and put 2 on each wheel cover and through the wheel holes to keep them on. I'm thinking of just taking the liners off except they do look better with them on.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-07T10:49:01.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-07T10:49:01.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1617665/message:1617678","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"547","rawBody":"I agree with all on this as thee are usually 2 that hold the cap on. They are not on there to prevent theft of the tire or wheel, they are there to prevent the wheel liner from coming off rolling down the road.

On my wheel covers I don't have this and after taking off and on a few times the claws that hold them on start to get weaker. So I have gone to the stainless zip ties and put 2 on each wheel cover and through the wheel holes to keep them on. I'm thinking of just taking the liners off except they do look better with them on.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1617678_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:87933":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:87933","uid":87933,"login":"CloudDriver","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2005-10-30T18:49:59.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:87933"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1617677":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1617677","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1617677":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:87933"},"id":"message:1617677","revisionNum":1,"uid":1617677,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1617665"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1617665"},"subject":"Re: Locking wheel nuts - Ford","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1617677"},"body":"Our Class C E450 chassis has wheel covers held in place with two nuts with dimples as shown below. I always tighten them with the T handle wrench because the the two nuts only engage at most two threads on the lug bolt and overtightening would strip the threads. Never had a problem removing the dimpled nuts with the T handle wrench.



E450 Lug nut - note just two threads available for wheel cover nut. Also note proper torque for lug nut (140 ft lb) stamped into top of nut.
","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-06T19:13:20.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-06T19:13:20.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":565},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1617665/message:1617677","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"959","rawBody":"Our Class C E450 chassis has wheel covers held in place with two nuts with dimples as shown below. I always tighten them with the T handle wrench because the the two nuts only engage at most two threads on the lug bolt and overtightening would strip the threads. Never had a problem removing the dimpled nuts with the T handle wrench.



E450 Lug nut - note just two threads available for wheel cover nut. Also note proper torque for lug nut (140 ft lb) stamped into top of nut.
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So, will have to try to get something to undo them. Or perhaps I can find a tire place that has a replacement tire they will come out and mount for us.

Don't know how I can get penetrating oil under there.

Why in the world do they put on something that is so horrible to get off? I don't have them and nobody stole my tires yet. Then again, this is probably why I don't have those things on my wheel covers.

We will figure it out somehow.
Again, thank you all!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-06T16:07:19.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-06T16:07:19.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":565},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1617665/message:1617675","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1029","rawBody":"Thank you all for your replies. I don't think I will be able to get pics tomorrow. But will do my best. I did get back and look. There is one one lug with a dimple on it. However, this one seems like it's part of the wheel cover. When I wiggle it, the cover seems to move with it. A total of 6 of them are like this. There are 2 of them that are opposite each other that are firm and don't wiggle at all. They do not have dimples on them. I have to believe that these are the ones screwed onto the bolts under them.

So, will have to try to get something to undo them. Or perhaps I can find a tire place that has a replacement tire they will come out and mount for us.

Don't know how I can get penetrating oil under there.

Why in the world do they put on something that is so horrible to get off? I don't have them and nobody stole my tires yet. Then again, this is probably why I don't have those things on my wheel covers.

We will figure it out somehow.
Again, thank you all!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1617675_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:279898":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:279898","uid":279898,"login":"Oldme","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-12-02T10:44:18.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:279898"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1617674":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1617674","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1617674":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:279898"},"id":"message:1617674","revisionNum":1,"uid":1617674,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1617665"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1617665"},"subject":"Re: Locking wheel nuts - Ford","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1617674"},"body":"I have not seen real wheel locks in years.

I had some back in 1967 to protect the wheels
on a Firebird.
You needed a special Key.

Are you sure it is a \"lock\" or are you just seeing
the fake lug nuts as mentioned above?

You may need some penetrating oil on them it they have been
on a long time. Otherwise there is always a hammer and chisel
then replace the stud and nut.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-01-06T15:36:48.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-01-06T15:36:48.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":566},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1617665/message:1617674","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"430","rawBody":"I have not seen real wheel locks in years.

I had some back in 1967 to protect the wheels
on a Firebird.
You needed a special Key.

Are you sure it is a \"lock\" or are you just seeing
the fake lug nuts as mentioned above?

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