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unoilot
Explorer
Jan 18, 2015

New buyer....probably same old questions.

Hello all,

Within the next few years I will transition from seeing the country from the air (I am a pilot) To seeing it from the rd.

I am going to go full time and hit the road in a class A rv.
One thing I am confused about is pricing. I understand any new vehicle will depreciate as soon as it is off the lot. But the prices I have seem look crazy.

I have been looking at the THOR Challenger series and a quick internet search shows the MSRP is discounted $40,000 on these models.

IMHO that makes the MSRP a joke. Sure a few thousand...but a 25% off before any negotiations take place??

There are several units (2015 model's)with less than 4k miles on them that are listed at a little over 100k So that is a further 25k price reduction.

So on a 2015 Challenger with a MSRP of 168,000 there are unit's available for close to 100,000 that are so close to new as to be considered new.

I do not understand how a manufacturer can post such a unrealistic MSRP. Also why in the world would anyone buy new when the discount's are so dramatic buyng a unit with 3000 miles?

At any rate I love this site and the opinions and tip's offered are great!
  • High MSRP discount room for the dealer allows the dealer to offer a higher price for the trade-in unit (to make the customer feel good) and reduce the discount quoted.

    A buyer with no trade-in will be able to negotiate a deal with close to maximum discount.
  • As noted lot of variation in price across the country with dealers and don't forget MSRP is a 'suggested' retail price. Depending on the volume a dealer sells and their affiliation with the builder the dealers cost can be heavily discounted which allows the dealer more room to negotiate and still make a profit. Also there are potential builder to dealer bonuses based on volume so dealers may risk selling at minimal up front profit making it up later.

    Depreciation is a used buyers best friend and a sellers worst enemy but is also a difficult target to lock on to. If you do enough searching you'll generally come up with a bell curve range of prices. If you're willing to wait and maybe travel for that one seller who is killing the curve it is possible to save thousands.

    Going with a small DP doesn't ensure a high towing capacity. Do your research and educate yourself. A good example is a 36' Tiffin Red compared to a 36' Tiffin Phaeton. Same chassis but the Red has a smaller engine/transmission to keep the price down which has an effect on available towing capacity. You have to dig into the numbers to find the true limits.
  • Thanks for the reply's.

    I have seem similar price reductions on other model's as well.
    I am still researching and think maybe a smaller DP would work.
    I like the larger tow rating with them.

    My plan is to tow a car and also my Goldwing so I need the weight carrying capacity of the dp
  • Hello from a fellow pilot.

    As Mike said, Thor has been getting a lot of bad press on the forums. The quality doesn't seem to be up to the standards of other mfgs.

    The issue with new rigs is that all except the highest priced motorhomes expect the buyer and dealer to work out the quality issues after the purchase. Take this into account when planning your purchase.

    It's generally recommended to buy used and to pick a floor plan that works. A useable floor plan doe a weekend warrior is different from a full-timer. Good luck with your search and keep us posted.