RIP Propane

k6ncx wrote:
Huh?

I just bought a brand new Class A. It uses propane, as did EVERY ONE I LOOKED AT on a huge dealer's lot. So did the Class A coaches I looked at on manufacturers' websites. Who are you kidding?

Class A diesels. I initially mistakenly left that out. Class A gas propane yes.

Huh?

I just bought a brand new Class A. It uses propane, as did EVERY ONE I LOOKED AT on a huge dealer's lot. So did the Class A coaches I looked at on manufacturers' websites. Who are you kidding?

Also, let me clarify, I'm not trying to 'sell my goods' to anyone who likes boondocking vs. RV parks. They make coaches/travel trailers for every use. Pick what works for you.

All types of camping are good!
MM.

Mr.Mark wrote:
I think 'age' has a lot to do with people buying a 'boondocking unit' vs. an 'all electric unit' used for pole to pole use.

In my late 50's and I have no interest in boondocking as a mode of camping. Actually, I've never 'tented', etc. I'm a very late bloomer to camping but hit the ground running as I love it!

I have joined my camping group in Quartzsite BLM land for 5 days or so for couple of years and that's my extent of 'boondocking'. We like full hook-ups and resorts!

We can certainly boondock for weeks as we have a 235 gallon diesel tank and a large holding tank (165 gallons for black and grey), 165 gallons fresh tank.

I never wanted propane on board as it's so flammable. Our first coach was all electric with the Aqua Hot for heated water and furnace. One fuel worked for us then and now.

Safe travels,
MM.

With your Coach you could boondock for ten days easy without propane. Coach's with propane may not last as long as they would run out of fresh water way before you ran out of diesel. People with REAL life experience with an 'all electric' know this.

I think 'age' has a lot to do with people buying a 'boondocking unit' vs. an 'all electric unit' used for pole to pole use.

In my late 50's and I have no interest in boondocking as a mode of camping. Actually, I've never 'tented', etc. I'm a very late bloomer to camping but hit the ground running as I love it!

I have joined my camping group in Quartzsite BLM land for 5 days or so for couple of years and that's my extent of 'boondocking'. We like full hook-ups and resorts!

We can certainly boondock for weeks as we have a 235 gallon diesel tank and a large holding tank (165 gallons for black and grey), 165 gallons fresh tank.

I never wanted propane on board as it's so flammable. Our first coach was all electric with the Aqua Hot for heated water and furnace. One fuel worked for us then and now.

Safe travels,
MM.

I think there are probably several factors involved in your seeing fewer places that fill propane bottles. Economy of scale and cost make the exchange bottles a better option than the cost of equipment and training and personnel time to refill bottles. I think the larger type bottles installed in the rig permanent are much less common and not a very large part of the market.

When it comes to class A motorhomes, and even the mid range and higher fifth wheels, many are going to electric refrigerators and stoves now, although the non diesel powered rigs still seem to stick to Propane for heating beyond what the heat pump type AC units might provide. When we were shopping last year and asked about this and the reasoning behind it, every dealer we asked said the primary factor driving this was that dry camping and boondocking were something very few people buying these rigs were doing.

OLYLEN wrote:
You really think all the gas BBQ's outnumber the All electric A's sold every year. And you think of all the propane heated homes with both hotwater and cooktop. Me thinks you might do a map search for dealers and the map will turn red like in my area with locations and delivery.

LEN

If you care to read OP post and fully understand his point he was not referring to anything to do with propane going by the wayside of the 8 track player.All he ever suggested was that the bottle/rv filling stations seem to be diminishing possible because of all electric RV.it has nothing to do with home use at all

Mile High wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:
RVers have to take at least some of the blame for businesses not wanting to fuel their rigs. When we sold propane, I couldn't begin to count the number of people who pulled in to "top off their tanks" to the tune of a gallon. Others seemed to wait until the worst weather possible. Still others had RVs that took a contortionist laying on their backs to reach the fill connection. No matter what we charged, we were constantly barraged by whiners complaining we were ripping off the public. We have never looked back with any regret at our decision to quit.

Like fuel, I like to head out on vacation with a full tank of propane, and I don't always get to pick the weather when I need to fill. I really don't like feeling guilty about that, but I guess I am part of the aggravation. Part of what makes self service so appealing and successful I guess. I realize it would be hard to do with propane, but I hope you realized that if I showed up I didn't like the fact you had to help me anymore than you liked the fact I showed up. Just a necessary evil for LP camping.

It's interesting to note that you can refill your CNG POWERED VEHICLE yourself, but, you can not refill your LPG POWERED VEHICLE yourself or any of your LPG tanks without proper certification!

CNG = Compressed Natural Gas
LPG = Liquified Propane Gas

What's with that?

Chum lee

westernrvparkowner wrote:
RVers have to take at least some of the blame for businesses not wanting to fuel their rigs. When we sold propane, I couldn't begin to count the number of people who pulled in to "top off their tanks" to the tune of a gallon. Others seemed to wait until the worst weather possible. Still others had RVs that took a contortionist laying on their backs to reach the fill connection. No matter what we charged, we were constantly barraged by whiners complaining we were ripping off the public. We have never looked back with any regret at our decision to quit.

Like fuel, I like to head out on vacation with a full tank of propane, and I don't always get to pick the weather when I need to fill. I really don't like feeling guilty about that, but I guess I am part of the aggravation. Part of what makes self service so appealing and successful I guess. I realize it would be hard to do with propane, but I hope you realized that if I showed up I didn't like the fact you had to help me anymore than you liked the fact I showed up. Just a necessary evil for LP camping.

No one was inferring that ""propane"" was being impacted in any way shape or form. what he(OP) suggested was the small bottle fill and RV filling places were on the down trend in his opinion possible due to more and more electric to all electric coach production.