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RovingTriker
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The wife and I have been talking about eventually trying the rv thing. I guess that's why I'm here, right? Initially I was thinking a class c would be best for us, as we have 1 child and are planning 1 or 2 more. That said, we would need at least sleeping for 4, maybe 5, would like 6 in the event they have a friend or cousin stay. But the wife likes the look of class A's better, and they do feel a bit more spacious inside. I will be buying used, and think of myself as handy, and can improvise a bunk or 2 somewhere if needed. So after.trying to learn about the options, I think I would like a DP. Having the engine at the back would be nice for conversations, and (at least in my head) better driving experience with that much weight.

Our main plan is some cross country vacations, so we would be putting a lot of miles on every day. Plus we won't have a toad, so I would like shorter to be able to go most places. I'm thinking under 30, as I read some parks have that as a cut off.

Is there many to choose from that short? Wife's never been in one, so I don't know what kind of floor plan we would want.
Would there really be much benefit to diesel, push or pull, at that length?
Any possible handling/balance issues at that short?

Thanks in advance,
Justin
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workhardplayha1
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Think about how you are going to use child safety seats. Tiffin Breeze is setup for two people with light colored leather interior. Diesel if you are going to crank out the miles otherwise gas will have plenty of power. Look at the Super C's that are getting more popular.

FIRE_UP
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Roving Triker,
If you are truly new at all this, then there's a serious amount of info to take in and consider. Diesels can and do cost more up front, to operate and maintenance. How much more, well that depends on all kinds of stuff. Things like "do your own maintenance", buying things like the fuel, air and oil filters on the best sale you can find. Gas units are cheaper in the fact that there's not near as much oil involved in regular oil changes. The air and fuel filters are normally a lot cheaper etc.

But, all that involves maintenance which, while it does have to be done, is not all that often. The ride, yep, a Pusher is definitely a smoother, better, more relaxfull ride but, you pay for it. You pay for it with much larger tires, heavier rig which, most of the time uses more fuel, but not always. You pay for it in terms of if and when you have to do any maintenance or, repairs on or in the engine area, most Diesel Pushers are one serious pain in the a$$ to get to and work on the engine/components.

And, you say your thinking of a short one, well some of the models have been suggested but, in all reality, there's not very many "short" diesel pushers out there. A 36' is fairly common, a 34' is fairly rare, a 32' is ultra rare and, anything less, is almost non-existent. And, the shorter the rig, ANY RIG, WITH ANY FUEL, the less and less storage you have. And, the interior layout gets really compromised with the shorter units. Sleeping arrangements for more than two, really get tight.

As far as NOT FITTING in SOME campgrounds, yes, that is a problem at some. We've been in our 36' Diesel now for over two years and have traveled to many western states and a ton of private, state and federal campgrounds and as of yet, we've not been shut out of any of them. I'm not sure what they use to determine length limits but we've been in a few campgrounds that had a limit of 34' and we fit in with plenty of room to spare.

So, lots of things to consider. Most of the later Class Cs and As too have fairly good engine cover insulation so, talking while driving is not the problem it was several years ago. Good luck.
Scott
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Ivylog
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Having read your previous posts, either go with a much longer A and pull a toad or get a C. If you end up with 5 then a C is a better choice. The V10 has plenty of power and I've gotten 9-10mpg with a 30'.
This post is my opinion (free advice). It is not intended to influence anyone's judgment nor do I advocate anyone do what I propose.
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bluwtr49
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I suggest that you make sure you're concerns about a longer DP are truly valid. With the number of people you mentioned it would seem that the longer the better. As far as campgrounds go, that seems to be an opinion that some folks tout with little basis in fact. It would seem to me that comfort trumps the occasional park with a length restriction.

And, you are totally correct in you assessment of the rear engine and the driving pleasure...it's a wonderful way to travel. Downside is you hear every pot and pan rattle, window squeak, and etc.
Dick

2002 43' DP Beaver Marquis Emerald Cat C-12 505 HP, 1600 Tq
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capnqball
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30' is going to definitely limit any choices able to sleep several kids along with yourselves. In a DP the only one coming to mind is the Tiffin Breeze 28. The shorter lengths will really limit the storage necessary for cross country trips with kids. You might think more along the idea of 34', which will give you more choices. Check the Thor and Tiffin websites for possibilities, along with others. I would be looking at bunk models with the family in mind. You'll save money by going with the gas, but you don't say what your budget is.