Tire rotation with duals

Michelin is recommending same side rotation - nice animation
http://www.michelin.ca/tires-101/tire-care/tire-maintenance/tire-rotation.page

I don't do it, either. Maybe on vehicles with separate winter and summer tires, if I happen to mark the previous position.

Wayne Dohnal wrote:
In my case at Discount Tire, they just treated the wheels the same as with standard stems, using their standard spin balance machine. The only added risk I saw is that it's easy to accidentally whack the long stem with one of the tools when mounting and dismounting a tire. One of my stems died an early death from this.

That was my experience as far as Discount's equipment and people being able to spin balance rear duals with the long stems on the inners. Same experience with a long stem getting damaged, except it was my fault. I was doing brake work when I realized it needed tires, so I loaded the wheels in my pickup and took them over there. One got away coming off the tailgate. Naturally it was one with a long stem and naturally it landed on the stem side. Bent it bad, took on a J-shape.

This is where I re-doubled my support of the Borg Dually Valves. I called and asked if I could get just one valve. Yes, what was my invoice number. Didn't have one, but they'd still send a replacement at no cost. I asked if they'd air-express it and invoice me for the shipping. They did exactly that. CA to FL the next day but no invoice. I called and they had a record of what they paid FedEx, so I charged that amount and took the stem over to Discount. They didn't charge for the extra work and what looked like disaster came out as moderate inconvenience and minimal expense.

Borg's Webpage

chinrv wrote:
I've asked this before on other threads, but no answers. For those of you that have installed the Dually or Borg valves, how does the tire store balance those particular wheels with the long valve stems?

In my case at Discount Tire, they just treated the wheels the same as with standard stems, using their standard spin balance machine. The only added risk I saw is that it's easy to accidentally whack the long stem with one of the tools when mounting and dismounting a tire. One of my stems died an early death from this.

Haven't rotated an tires in the lat 50 years on anything.

Bobbo wrote:
Considering that the tires will age out long before they wear out, I don't rotate my tires.

The same goes for me. By the time our tires are worn unevenly to the point of concern, they will be 12 years old.

I recommend to leave the rear tires alone to wear as they do to remain settled into their paired relationship. Disturbing that could place more weight on one tire with more thread, over the other tire with less thread.

The fronts tires are much more forgiving with each other. I personally don't see a benefit to rotate the fronts with each other, but no harm either.

On our old Toyota chassis rig front tires, I flipped them each on their respective wheel. Though we had a good alignment, there was some strange dynamics going on there. More thread on the outside of the front tires made for better cornering in the canyons and mountains. I have not yet seen the same issue with our E350 chassis.

We don't wear our tires out. They get replaced do to age but they have most of their tread left and no signs of abnormal wear so no need to rotate. We used to rotate all 6, our tire dealer does it for free as a part of the care he provides for purchasing tires from him, but we stopped rotating when I realized it really wasn't necessary.
In the 2015 ford F250-550 owners manual Ford recommends rotating side to side front and back for DRWs and to not break up the dually pairs.

I've asked this before on other threads, but no answers. For those of you that have installed the Dually or Borg valves, how does the tire store balance those particular wheels with the long valve stems?

I only rotate tires on anything as needed. Usually less frequently than recommended by mfg. Yes to even out tread wear if tread wear is a limiting factor. Also in some cases to prevent tire noise. The motorhome will probably get the fewest rotations of my vehicles. I fully expect to condemn the tires due to age prior to the worst one wearing out. My only expectation to rotate them would be if the front tires unexpectedly develop heavy cupping, feathering, or some other issue which leads to noise or poor ride/handling. In that case I'd probably rotate them front to back. I've seen no signs of these issues so far.

Many of us don't rotate the rear duals at all. Having custom valve stems like Borg Dually Valve or Tire Man limits the possibilities. Taking the Right pair to the Left and Left pair to right is about the only option. I haven't done that...
...but Fronts and Spare have the same valve stems, and I do rotate those. Like CloudDriver said, gets some use out of the spare, probably helps equalize wear on fronts and rears...
...but most of us won't wear an RV tire out to begin with. Age will take over first.

I checked the Michelin website. They recommend rotation every 6K - 8K miles. There are 2 different patterns you can use.