Forced Internet/email supplier

[Gonzo42]

Recently Verizon sold all their land-based operations to Frontier. Thousand of folk have problems. I also have some.

However I only want to address the email situation. Verizon's email user interface was superior. Frontier's not so good. Its too easy to delete more than one, unless the box is checked and then delete.

On the other side, Frontier's Spam function is right on the money. Whereas Verizon's Spam function hardly worked at all. On theirs I used any unsubscribe if available and then marked it spam. It was all hit-and-miss.

Frontier's spam function works right away with no errors so far. Good for them.

[Sam_Spade]

SCVJeff wrote:
You clearly don't follow business or the market. They're nuking themselves without any external help

And you clearly are making unfounded assumptions......again.

I would repeat the question because you didn't answer it but that would be pointless. I quit.

[MrWizard]

Gonzo
Nobody including Frontier
Is forcing you to use frontier email
I've been using Gmail since it was first offered!

Most ISP emails are provided by Yahoo
With the exception of Verizon
Most ISPs don't have their own email server, they re-brand service from another provider

[SCVJeff]

Sam Spade wrote:

SCVJeff wrote:
Just like everything else Yahoo, they haven't kept up.

What exactly do you think it accomplishes by bad mouthing Yahoo ???

You clearly don't follow business or the market. They're nuking themselves without any external help

[wa8yxm]

I use both Gmail and Yahoo.. Tell your ISP to shove their E-mail.

And my address is not a real place as well, it is a reflector. So if I change E-mail providers a quick transaction on the reflector's web page and I still get all my mail.

[braindead0]

Sam Spade wrote:

SCVJeff wrote:
Just like everything else Yahoo, they haven't kept up.

And just like everything else, it's all a matter of perspective.
I consider 7 messages a day properly going to the SPAM folder to be really good performance.

Before the ISPs started trying to filter at the servers, I was sometimes getting 50 AN HOUR. Now that is a problem.

What exactly do you think it accomplishes by bad mouthing Yahoo ???

I've had a yahoo account since their inception, and I give it out freely as a throwaway address. I rarely get any spam in my inbox, maybe 1 or 2 a week. I report all missed spam as spam.. AND I review my spam folder for anything incorrectly ID'd which happens very rarely.

[Sam_Spade]

SCVJeff wrote:
Just like everything else Yahoo, they haven't kept up.

And just like everything else, it's all a matter of perspective.
I consider 7 messages a day properly going to the SPAM folder to be really good performance.

Before the ISPs started trying to filter at the servers, I was sometimes getting 50 AN HOUR. Now that is a problem.

What exactly do you think it accomplishes by bad mouthing Yahoo ???

[SCVJeff]

Sam Spade wrote:

SCVJeff wrote:

Please elaborate...

Is that "address" a real name ?
Are those incoming messages in your inbox or the spam box ?
If inbox, have you bothered to mark them as spam to "train" your filters at all ??
50 a week actually isn't too bad; less than 10 a day.
AND.....if NOBODY has that address.......why bother at all ????

Yes to all..

because at the time in order to have a Yahoo Messenger address you had to have a Yahoo account, and that included this.

In the end it doesn't really matter why, the fact that the Yahoo spam filters not catching 10,000 identical emails coming through their servers says enough. Just like everything else Yahoo, they haven't kept up.

[JoeTampa]

2oldman wrote:
Gmail's spam filter is the best I've found.

+1

[Sam_Spade]

SCVJeff wrote:

Please elaborate...

Is that "address" a real name ?
Are those incoming messages in your inbox or the spam box ?
If inbox, have you bothered to mark them as spam to "train" your filters at all ??
50 a week actually isn't too bad; less than 10 a day.
AND.....if NOBODY has that address.......why bother at all ????

[SCVJeff]

tempforce wrote:
outlook, msn and hotmail are the worse, for getting junk and inappropriate e-mail.
aol is horrible for advertising spam

And I have the opposite problem. AOL, unlike Yahoo seems to do a WAY better job of spam. I currently have 5 AOL addresses, all over 25 years old when Steve Case used to personally answer the support line, 3 of them are mine, and they don't get anywhere near the spam Yahoo does. That's the only reason I keep them.

[SCVJeff]

Sam Spade wrote:

SCVJeff wrote:
If you're looking for spam, lots of it, then there's nothing better than Yahoo

I've been a Yahoo mail user for probably 15 years now and for maybe 10 years 100 percent of the spam that comes my way either doesn't reach me at all or goes directly to the spam folder. We are down to where I see almost nothing now.

I don't see how it can get much better than that.
If you are seeing a lot of spam in your inbox, I strongly suspect that most of the fault probably is YOURS.

Please tell me how that works won't you? I've had a Yahoo email address since 1997, the year Yahoo Mail went live.

What I didn't mention is that NOBODY has that email address. All I do is empty it once a week or so with nowhere less than 50 spam and phish messages, and this is MY fault?

Please elaborate...

[tempforce]

outlook, msn and hotmail are the worse, for getting junk and inappropriate e-mail.
aol is horrible for advertising spam

[Sam_Spade]

SCVJeff wrote:
If you're looking for spam, lots of it, then there's nothing better than Yahoo

I've been a Yahoo mail user for probably 15 years now and for maybe 10 years 100 percent of the spam that comes my way either doesn't reach me at all or goes directly to the spam folder. We are down to where I see almost nothing now.

I don't see how it can get much better than that.
If you are seeing a lot of spam in your inbox, I strongly suspect that most of the fault probably is YOURS.

[SCVJeff]

If you're looking for spam, lots of it, then there's nothing better than Yahoo