OK Silly Sat TV Question....Looking for answers

Bill.Satellite wrote:
Tiffin is doing that with DirecTV. It makes no sense for them and it would make no sense for FR. It's just silly to try to tell the future owner of a coach that they need to use one service or the other (or even suggest it). DirecTV has about 30 million customers. Does FR really think that alienating these folks is a good idea? DirecTV has (about 3/5 of the market and Dish 2/5) trying to figure out who should do what is going to be a bad choice about 1/2 the time!

It does make sense economic sense for them in that they can offer a relatively inexpensive domed dish and state that they have built in HD Dish Network capability. Getting HD with DirecTV requires a Winegard Trav'ler since no dome system can receive the Ka and Ku band signals required for DirecTV HD.

If Tiffin is pre-installing DirecTV equipment I wouldn't be surprised if they are also installing a domed systems because they are cheap and the companies that make them probably can't find a lot of DirecTV customers who are willing to live without HD these days, so they probably get a good deal. I've learned from reading these forums that Entegra is doing basically the same thing, installing a cheap dome system and letting you pay to upgrade to a Trav'ler. From what others have posted the cost to upgrade to the Trav'ler is pretty close to its retail cost so the customer is getting little to no credit for the "obsolete" domed OEM system.

What the customer is not being told is that even with Dish Network the domed systems being installed are virtually useless with a DVR if your interest is being able to watch one channel and record another since it can do that only if the two channels happen to be broadcast from the same satellite.

It's another example of an RV manufacturer installing inferior appliances, electronics, etc, while, at the same time, advertising how they provide all these cool features as standard equipment.

Snowman9000 wrote:
Forest River is supposed to be working on a deal to offer a DISH Network setup as an installed option. Receiver and everything. So said the FR rep on the FR Owners forum. Does FR make Cedar Creek?

Yes they do. This sucks, I just switched out my home and campsite to directv about 6 months ago. I agree, not a wise thing. That's the first thing I asked the salesman and he said could go either way so maybe we get a choice either on the spot?? Geez another contract??

Tiffin is doing that with DirecTV. It makes no sense for them and it would make no sense for FR. It's just silly to try to tell the future owner of a coach that they need to use one service or the other (or even suggest it). DirecTV has about 30 million customers. Does FR really think that alienating these folks is a good idea? DirecTV has (about 3/5 of the market and Dish 2/5) trying to figure out who should do what is going to be a bad choice about 1/2 the time!

Forest River is supposed to be working on a deal to offer a DISH Network setup as an installed option. Receiver and everything. So said the FR rep on the FR Owners forum. Does FR make Cedar Creek?

The dome style satellite antennas will receive programming from either DirecTV or Dish but you would need a receiver provided by your provider of choice to receive their programming. There is not one box that can do either service.

I thought maybe there was a new fangled receiver out now that worked either way depending on who's card you slid inside it. Guess not, I'm going to find out more

Maybe it is a factory option to chose either Directv or Dish when it is being built, or they are building the cabinet to a universal fit for both a Dish or Directv receiver and they will send you the appropriate receiver when you buy the rig. Either seems like a bunch of hype for nothing, since by next week all the receivers will be different anyway. They are always changing, sometimes just for the sake of change.

DutchmenSport wrote:
The salesman probably mean "satellite ready", meaning there's a plug somewhere inside the camper that runs to outside the camper for the satellite system (your choice). My Outback has 2 outside jacks. One is for cable, the other is for satellite. The cable goes through the walls and to 2 plugs inside the camper. The satellite plug just goes right through the way by the television in the living room. It would be nice if that line was also wired to the bedroom where the second antenna plug is for cable-air television. I think that's what he's talking about. It's just a dedicated line so you don't have to put a cable from your receiver to the satellite dish through your window.

That has been around for 10 years or so. No this was a piece of electronic equipment that they were going to make an extra spot for in the entertainment system cabinent for. I know all the RV pre wired for dish systems of the roof too. I will call the district representative tomorrow for Cedar Creek

I would suspect Dutchmen might be right about the dedicated line, but has Cedar Creek not had that before now? Possibly it was an option?

dons2346 wrote:
Can't TIVOs record either Dish or Direct?

Depending on which model TiVo it is, some can record DirectTV, but not Dish. Others are just cable and/or OTA.