Hitch Weight

handye9 wrote:

2014screw wrote:
Are the hitch weights on a manufacturers website only "Dry" weights

No battery & empty propane bottles?

Not only, do they not include battery and propane, they also, do not include many options. They are marketing numbers, normally from a basic model....

Mine on the other hand, was only 8 lbs over its published brochure weight before propane and battery. So I guess the point would be, go to the dealer and look at the model in question and get the weights as it sits there right on the lot - before you buy. No need to speculate that way.

Just look at alworths sig. will give you a major clue what he is about!

Just ignore Allworth :-) If they get too bad, click on their name, there's a Block button.

Allworth wrote:
Just tell us where you are going to be so we can avoid those roads!

Wow, what a comment. Thanks for your serious and entertaining input. I appreciate your help and thoughtfulness in answering my questions.

Tell me where you are and I'll be sure to go where you are just to annoy you.

Just tell us where you are going to be so we can avoid those roads!

2014screw wrote:
Are the hitch weights on a manufacturers website only "Dry" weights

No battery & empty propane bottles?

Not only, do they not include battery and propane, they also, do not include many options. They are marketing numbers, normally from a basic model.

My trailer for example, the website shows 888 lbs hitch weight. Some of the options available are an airconditioning unit (or two), minimum or full carpet, fireplace, ceiling fans, electric tank heat, corian counter tops, power jacks, power stabilizers, power awnings, window upgrades, and various others. After the dealer and I added things, my loaded hitch weight is 200 lbs higher than that 888 lbs.

For your payload question--- Being over on payload, means you're also over the same amount, on GVWR. Could be over on axle / tire, receiver ratings, and over GCVWR. Is your truck going to explode? Probably not, but, you won't like the handling and performance, you'll have increased wear and tear, and possibly, premature failures on various pieces and parts.

Up to you to decide how many and how much, you are comfortabe with exceeding your ratings.

Bobbyg2013 wrote:
IN YOUR FORMULA, WHAT DOES THE * SIGN REPRESENT, I.E. max gvwr of TRAILER/100*10=TONGUE WEIGHT

It means multiplied by. That formula is read as GVWR of trailer divided by 100 multiplied by 10. Just another way to calculate percentage. In this case, 10%.

I think we'll be alright, as we're not actually over any ratings, and I've included safety buffers to boot.

cdevidal wrote:
True, but some people can't go with more TV or less TT. I'm one of those; It's a long story why. I think we'll be alright, as we're not actually over any ratings, and I've included safety buffers to boot.

Unfortunately, your attitude is not unusual and while you can attempt to rationalize the numbers to fit your desires they don't change the facts and you don't know what safety factor there might be in the various numbers. As I stated the receiver rating is to be compared to the actual tongue wt. before any "redistribution" from things like a WDH are activated. By dead tongue wt. I mean that which you would see from putting the tongue on something like a Sherline tongue wt. scale. Now days you might be very surprised just how little safety factor there are in the design of things and if you are counting on that unknown number then IMO you are already too close and are in the typical too little TV or to much TT category.

Larry

IN YOUR FORMULA, WHAT DOES THE * SIGN REPRESENT, I.E. max gvwr of TRAILER/100*10=TONGUE WEIGHT