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What kind of camper for trip around the United states

jenjen77
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I live in the panhandle of florida, we are getting ready to travel from Florida to Yosemite in the summer. We plan on going to north rim of grand canyon among a bunch of other stops. We are on the search for a camper on some sort. I have 3 kids, my boyfriend and myself and going to be in our 2011 suburban LT with the extra transmission cooler for more pulling weight

We are thinking a pop up tent will give us the best gas mileage for our trip, but I also hear that the HTTs are nice. Any suggestion on what would be giving us the best gas mileage or the best option as far as traveling such a long distance? thanks!
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jenjen77
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well thanks to everyone's great advice we went and bought a MINT condition used 2008 keystone freedom lite 185qb.. we are planning a camping trip soon to test the baby out for our trip! Looking forward to it!

Redsky
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2012Coleman wrote:
Take a look at Trailmanor These are light weight hard sided popups. Check the Dealer locator page to see dealers listed by zip code - for example JD Sanders RV in Alachua


Very pricy though with the ones I have seen selling in the $20,000 range. It would take a lot of gas to begin to breakeven compared to buying a standard hard side trailer. A used 24-29 foot trailer in excellent condition can be bought for under $10,000 and most of these can easily be towed with a 1/2 ton pickup.

2012Coleman
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Take a look at Trailmanor These are light weight hard sided popups. Check the Dealer locator page to see dealers listed by zip code - for example JD Sanders RV in Alachua
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bikendan
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2gypsies wrote:
bikendan wrote:

please list the ones that have a permanent ban of soft-sided RV's. i've asked this question numerous times on various RV forums and have yet to have someone post another campground that has such a ban and that RV's can fit into.


The only permanent ban we have seen in our 17 years of full-timing is Fishing Bridge in Yellowstone. However, there are plenty of other campgrounds in Yellowstone to stay. Fishing Bridge is in the heart of grizzly country.


thanks for echoing what i've found. because of this one campground, many think that it's common to other National Park campgrounds.
"you can't camp, at a National Park, in a popup or hybrid" is one i constantly see.
but it is funny that Bridge Bay campground, which is about 3 miles south along the Lake, from Fishing Bridge, doesn't have this permanent ban.
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jenjen77
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Well the ages of the kids are 12,8 and 2. And possibly my 18 yr old. We don't have much camping experience as a family. Granted we camp on islands with out boat but that's about it!! We really are leaning towards the 2008 keystone freedom lite 185qb..we love the that the bed portion slides out. All of your comments and opinions have been so helpful! Keep them coming!!

2gypsies1
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bikendan wrote:

please list the ones that have a permanent ban of soft-sided RV's. i've asked this question numerous times on various RV forums and have yet to have someone post another campground that has such a ban and that RV's can fit into.


The only permanent ban we have seen in our 17 years of full-timing is Fishing Bridge in Yellowstone. However, there are plenty of other campgrounds in Yellowstone to stay. Fishing Bridge is in the heart of grizzly country.
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FLY_4_FUN
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If I was taking a trip like that, I think that one of the 22-26 ft hybrids with triple fold out bunks would be perfect. Some also have jack/jill bunk + pop-outs. Good interior size when turtled at a rest-stop for food and bathroom breaks, but you can still set up, take down in a reasonable time. Yes, it will weigh more and tow vehicle is going to use more fuel. My .02

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tatest
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Ages? Camping experience?

Even if you get one with an on-board toilet-shower unit, a pop-up is still camping, with the tent up off the ground. It works great if you want a tent camping experience with a few luxuries like getting down out of bed instead if getting up off the ground.

A travel trailer or motorhome is a different experience, a house on wheels. Most of what is essential in a house is there inside the RV, so if you don't want to camp, you don't have to camp. It is maybe not as room as your house, I don't know, I've been in houses actually smaller than our larger RVs.

Hybrid gives you the house, rather than camping, experience, except that some or all of the people will sleep in something more like a tent.

As a long-time camper, still have more nights in tents than I've spent in the RV I've been using the past eight years, I looked at pop-ups as a way to get back to the camping experience. My idea was to get away from having to get from rising from a bed on the ground to a semi-standing position to stumble outside without knocking the tent down. Worked with a dealer on setting up a pop-up.

What I learned was that it would take me 20-30 minutes of work to park, stabilize, and set up that popup, working alone. I can set up my tent in seven minutes, take it down in ten. The rest of setting up camp, mostly the outdoor kitchen, is about the same whether in tent or popup camper. Thinking now about a taller tent, so I can use a cot in it.

If you don't want this to be a camping trip, rather using a RV to enable a road trip, having decent private accommodations (but not necessarily cheaper than hotels/motels/cabins) then you want something more like a house on wheels.
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bikendan
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bsinmich wrote:
I don't know about only one CG in the country having regulations due to bear problems. We have seen it in Canada, TN, VA, and a couple others.


i'm talking about a permanent ban to soft-sided RV's or tents.
sure there will be temporart bans due to recent bear activity.
but having bear regulations is different than banning soft-sided RV's from camping there.

please list the ones that have a permanent ban of soft-sided RV's. i've asked this question numerous times on various RV forums and have yet to have someone post another campground that has such a ban and that RV's can fit into.
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I would not hook on a 31 ft, Arctic Fox TT with 1500. They weigh in at around 8-9K loaded and by the time you get all your travel stuff in you will weigh right at 19K. If you are camping in cold weather you will need a 4 seasons trailer. If you don't want to make a bed, carry sleeping bags. (Not sure that thats about tho) There are bear regs everywhere on the Appalacian down from VA to GA, all over CO, and the NW also, you know, "Don't feed the bears" but seems no one pays attentiion.

Lynnmor
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Do the math. A wild guess is that you would pay about $500 more in gas when you compare a small popup to a reasonable size travel trailer.
It might be the best $500 you ever spent. I used a large popup when we traveled with 3 kids, had a great time but there were many difficult days because of weather.

bsinmich
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I don't know about only one CG in the country having regulations due to bear problems. We have seen it in Canada, TN, VA, and a couple others.
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jmanatee
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I have been around twice, once with my parents and sister when I was 9. We went in a popup with no shower, toilet, refrigerator or water heater. We had a great time.

In 2011 I took my wife and son following (for the most part) the same route. We went in our current coach 2008 38' DP with all the amenities. We had a great time.

On both trips we spent very little time in the camper, up early and out the door exploring, home late and to bed for the next days adventures.

It is my opinion the camper you do it in should have little affect on the fun you have. Get what you can afford and is safe, and go have fun.
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lizzie
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Hi JenJen. Welcome to the Forum. I traveled from the Florida Panhandle to the West Coast a number of time with two adults and three children from 1973 to the 1990's. We used tents, a 17' travel trailer, a converted Chevy van, and a Pup. All of the trips were wonderful experiences and all had their moments! Overall, I think traveling in the TT was the easiest when I had a preschooler. Ours was small but it did have a bathroom, we could all get inside during bad weather, and it was a fast set-up. Our family spent a lot of time outdoors, so whatever we camped in was mainly a place to sleep. Please consider yourself when making this decision. If you are not rested and comfortable, nobody will have a good time. Make sure that you have a good bed to look forward to at the end of the day and that you are not up all night taking children to the bathroom. Good luck! lizzie