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Ralph Cramden wrote:By all means, if a law doesn't completely yield the intended results you should just ignore it. If that is your mantra, I don't know why you would choose firewood as your law to ignore. It would be much more profitable to realize the war on drugs isn't working and then start selling heroin.naturist wrote:
My experience has been that campground hosts, rangers, and the folks in the office can all tell you where to buy wood nearby. Moving wood from one campground to another is highly discouraged if not outright illegal due to various non-native insect species such as emerald ash borers, woliaed aphids, gypsy moths, etc. Wherever you go, do NOT stock up. Buy only what you plan to burn where you are, and leave any leftovers for the next camper. Yes, it’s more expensive, but the locals appreciate your not infecting their woods with new pests.
The EAB was first found in Butler County PA in 2007. The state DNR and dept of agriculture initiated firewood bans and quarantines. As of 2016 62 of PAs 67 every counties has the EAB, and it has moved to NY, NJ,and all other NE states. The statewide county by county quarantine is no longer in effect. Quarantines and other such government decrees do nothing. The EAB migrating from the Detroit MI area where first discovered ( believed to have arrived in pallets from Asia) in 2002, and now in at least 31 states and some Canadian Provinces, had very little to do with campers moving firewood around and more to do with commercial movement of forest products.
Good luck telling that to people who recieve a paycheck from organizations such as donotmovefirewood.org, who have a vested interest in a calamity of epic proportions for their job security.
Are invasive insects a huge environmental issue as well as an economic one? You betcha. Are firewood rules going to solve it or even help.......not really. The whole scenario was brought on by the same people telling you not to move wood, who were not doing their job in 2002. I am told to not move firewood, but sawmill Joe can haul a load of freshly cut Ash that is never inspected, from MD or WV to his mill in PA, because he holds a piece of paper from the USDA. Horsepoopage.
And by the way, the PA DCNR advises you to not leave wood behind for the next camper but to burn it.
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naturist wrote:
My experience has been that campground hosts, rangers, and the folks in the office can all tell you where to buy wood nearby. Moving wood from one campground to another is highly discouraged if not outright illegal due to various non-native insect species such as emerald ash borers, woliaed aphids, gypsy moths, etc. Wherever you go, do NOT stock up. Buy only what you plan to burn where you are, and leave any leftovers for the next camper. Yes, it’s more expensive, but the locals appreciate your not infecting their woods with new pests.
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mobeewan wrote:
Even here there can be restrictions transporting firewood from state to state or even county to county.
Check the local papers for people in the area you are heading to selling firewood. Do an internet search for firewood and the area where your destination is located. You may get a hit or two.
If you are towing with a truck, shipping pallets are a good source for wood that can cross state lines. They can be broken down or placed whole in your truck bed under your gear. The wood is bug free and has been kiln dried. Square shipping pallets are usually held for reuse, but sometimes given away. See if there are any windshield replacement shops or commercial glass repair shops near your home or destination before leaving and call ahead to see if they have any pallets they are giving away. They usually have odd sized pallets and pallets with side framing that aren't usually reused. We have a local windshield replacement shop that stacks them outside for free give away instead of paying for disposal of them.
In the past, I've saved pallets with the oak used for any cooking and the pine for the camp fire after dinner.
Scrap lumber is also a good source for transportable kiln dried and bug free lumber. Construction sites may let you rummage through their trash bin or even let you have a few pallets.