So our beautiful new, one season old, travel trailer has been processed as a Total Loss by our insurance company claims department. :(:MWe loved it. 30' KZ Connect purchased at the 2017 Hershey RV show.As weekenders and vacationers, we got away for 25 nights last season and 8 so far this season.Why? - It was flooded out! How? - The shower was left on at night and we were at a campground with no on-site sewer connections. We had a city water hook up and it ran for hours while we slept. The gray tank filled up, the bathtub then filled up, then the floor filled up.We woke at 2am and were sloshing around in what seemed like a 1/4" of water. We mopped up with towels, drained the tank/tub and went home the next morning. We saw the underbelly sagging and leaking water.Took it to a body shop that repairs trailers and the insulation was soaked and the floor ducts were full of water.This was two weeks ago and we found out last week about the total loss.My thought is why is there no safety overflow drain in the tub to the ground? A $25 drain would save $25k in losses.We just cancelled our July 4th five day campground reservation in Lake George. That just sucks.So we are in the market for a TT asap and I guess I will be spending my July 4th vacation time going to dealers. Oh joy! Don't we just all love RV shopping and negotiating? Wish me luck!

So just how was the shower left on? Alcohol involved?

wildtoad wrote:So just how was the shower left on? Alcohol involved?Well... there is always alcohol involved but that's not the reason for the shower being left on.My 78-year-old father came with us. He shut the top shower head off and pushed the button down on the tub faucet. Seeing water come out of the lower faucet he had thought the hose was simply draining out for a moment and ignored it. Not realizing the faucet was actually running.He has 85% hearing loss and failed to hear the water continue to run and didn't look back to check it. Wife & I were in the front bedroom laying down, DD was in her bunk, and grandpa crawled into the dinette bed and fell asleep.

Sorry to hear. That is a bummer - especially with summer in full swing.brianosaur wrote:My thought is why is there no safety overflow drain in the tub to the ground? A $25 drain would save $25k in losses.I suspect it's because RVs have been built for years on the concept of "self contained". The fresh water tank and water pump would make such a drain unnecessary. So even with more and more folks using city hookups, the manufacturers see no need to change things.

toedtoes wrote:Sorry to hear. That is a bummer - especially with summer in full swing.I suspect it's because RVs have been built for years on the concept of "self contained". The fresh water tank and water pump would make such a drain unnecessary. So even with more and more folks using city hookups, the manufacturers see no need to change things.Yeah, I guess so. Either, boondock with same size fresh tank as waste tanks, or use on-site city water with sewer as the overflow. Makes sense.However the local county campground we weekend at is city water only on all sites, and a handful of sites with shore power.Dump station on the way out for all. I think I'd like to mod a drain into the floor or tub on my next TT.I definitely will get those portable little water alarms for the bathroom and under cabinets.

most times the best deal is the one your willing to pay, start high and work out ALL the extras into the final out the door price, .,,, me I,d digger some more off that.

2018 TT has been deemed Total Loss by insurance company

wildtoad
Explorer II
Jun 17, 2019
So just how was the shower left on? Alcohol involved?
brianosaur
Explorer
Jun 17, 2019
wildtoad wrote:
So just how was the shower left on? Alcohol involved?

Well... there is always alcohol involved but that's not the reason for the shower being left on.

My 78-year-old father came with us.

He shut the top shower head off and pushed the button down on the tub faucet.

Seeing water come out of the lower faucet he had thought the hose was simply draining out for a moment and ignored it. Not realizing the faucet was actually running.

He has 85% hearing loss and failed to hear the water continue to run and didn't look back to check it.

Wife & I were in the front bedroom laying down, DD was in her bunk, and grandpa crawled into the dinette bed and fell asleep.
toedtoes
Explorer III
Jun 17, 2019
Sorry to hear. That is a bummer - especially with summer in full swing.

brianosaur wrote:
My thought is why is there no safety overflow drain in the tub to the ground? A $25 drain would save $25k in losses.

I suspect it's because RVs have been built for years on the concept of "self contained". The fresh water tank and water pump would make such a drain unnecessary. So even with more and more folks using city hookups, the manufacturers see no need to change things.
brianosaur
Explorer
Jun 17, 2019
toedtoes wrote:
Sorry to hear. That is a bummer - especially with summer in full swing.

I suspect it's because RVs have been built for years on the concept of "self contained". The fresh water tank and water pump would make such a drain unnecessary. So even with more and more folks using city hookups, the manufacturers see no need to change things.

Yeah, I guess so. Either, boondock with same size fresh tank as waste tanks, or use on-site city water with sewer as the overflow. Makes sense.

However the local county campground we weekend at is city water only on all sites, and a handful of sites with shore power.

Dump station on the way out for all.

I think I'd like to mod a drain into the floor or tub on my next TT.

I definitely will get those portable little water alarms for the bathroom and under cabinets.
midnightsadie
Explorer II
Jun 17, 2019
most times the best deal is the one your willing to pay, start high and work out ALL the extras into the final out the door price, .,,, me I,d digger some more off that.
rexlion
Explorer
Jun 17, 2019
Glad you had good insurance coverage.
Lwiddis
Explorer II
Jun 17, 2019
“We had a city water hook up and it ran for hours while we slept.”

EXACTLY why I use the fresh water tank, using city water ONLY to refill the tank.
newman_fulltime
Explorer II
Jun 17, 2019
If you loved it so much why not buy another one like it ? :h
brianosaur
Explorer
Jun 18, 2019
newman fulltimer wrote:
If you loved it so much why not buy another one like it ? :h

Orig dealer has none on his lot.
None near me.
Considering a day or so travel but who knows?
jkwilson
Explorer III
Jun 18, 2019
brianosaur wrote:
toedtoes wrote:
Sorry to hear. That is a bummer - especially with summer in full swing.

I suspect it's because RVs have been built for years on the concept of "self contained". The fresh water tank and water pump would make such a drain unnecessary. So even with more and more folks using city hookups, the manufacturers see no need to change things.

Yeah, I guess so. Either, boondock with same size fresh tank as waste tanks, or use on-site city water with sewer as the overflow. Makes sense.

However the local county campground we weekend at is city water only on all sites, and a handful of sites with shore power.

Dump station on the way out for all.

I think I'd like to mod a drain into the floor or tub on my next TT.

I definitely will get those portable little water alarms for the bathroom and under cabinets.

You don’t leave your tank drains open even if you have a sewer hookup.