(3) OEM Tire Failures 2015 Trailer Rainier (tredit/goodyear)

3 Tire Failures on a 2015 Coach!

Rainier (mfg. tredit/goodyear) 235/80/16 E tires. Date code shows “1114” (March 2014). Stock OEM equipped. From what I can gather online these tires are really new. There really aren’t any reviews of them online besides people asking if they have heard about them or not . It appears these are also the stock equipped tire for JAYCO as well as ECLIPSE. Not sure of any others.

So am writing this as a real life review and notice to make sure people know what they might expect. As well as a notice to you on what to expect for tire warranty (or lack there of)

Our rig is a 2015 Eclipse Attitude 5th Wheel toyhauler. We had 3 trips previous trips on the rig or roughly 750 miles on the rig total (including delivery from manufacture). Tires were always at max air and covered when stored.

We experienced a blowout (driverside front axle) at 55mph about 85 miles into our trip last weekend. Ambient temperature outside was about 78 degrees. This blowout also caused the failure of the rear axle tire (shock load?) on the driver side. Luckily the rear tire was still holding air. I threw on the spare and limped into camp about 3 miles down the road (yup we were that close!)

Ran into town the next day and grabbed two new tires to replace the failed tires. (to the tune of $350 bucks)

Fast forward to our return trip home with the trailer we made it about 70 miles in and had another failure at 55mph with ambient at 71F. This one was passenger rear axle. Luckily the front tire appeared OKAY. Threw on the spare and limped home at 45mph on the freeway haha.

I wrote to Eclipse and included pictures of blowouts and mentioned I was unhappy with the fact they use substandard equipment on large trailers and put people in danger. I also included pictures of the damage to the trailer hoping to get some information back on repairs, but I never got even a peep back. I did however get a call from Tredit (which means Eclipse got my email and forwarded my email to tredit and then forgot about it)

Tredit asked a bunch of questions and sent me on a mission for more pictures and receipts etc… they assured me I would be taken care of. After a few days they got back to me and said they wanted to pay for PART of the bill for the two replacement tires as well as a credit for the third tire I would still have to buy. This didn’t really fly with me. They also went on to say that no tire company pays for damage to the trailer in the event of a failure or blowout. (this is incorrect, other companies do). We went back and forth a while and I wasn’t getting anywhere. I’m still getting screwed and bent over backwards , but we settled on them sending me a check for replacing all 5 original tires at less money than I can actually replace them for… so… a partial replacement at best and I’m stuck with figuring out repairing the trailer
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So just add this company to your list of AVOID AT ALL COSTS and know that if your rig came with them stock you got taken just like I did.

B_O__Plenty
Explorer II
Nov 03, 2015
I think it really speaks volumes when someone has a mounted ST spare tire that's never been used...and it blows out or gets a huge bulge in it..

B.O.
gmw_photos
Explorer
Nov 02, 2015
Hideout17 wrote:
I have read alto on tire failures. I keep my tires checked both air and temp. I keep between 60 and 65. What else can I do to prevent tire blow outs? When a tire does blow do you hear it or feel it? I haven't had one yet but I am still new to this yet. Our first trip was 1300 miles to Florida. I had to put 800$ on my truck the P series tired weren't cutting it. I do look at my tires for side bulges and tread damage too...

Here's my experience and observations on it:

buy quality tires, built to the highest standards, fit with size and load rating that provides plenty of reserve, keep them inflated correctly.
My opinion is that's your best chance of success.
fj12ryder
Explorer III
Nov 02, 2015
With some of the ST tires, and if you're running a tall heavy trailer it could be a throw of the dice, I was going to say **** shoot, but that gets xxxed out. You could be lucky and have no issues, but the odds are against it. You may hear it if a tire blows, or you may not realize it until someone waves you down and lets you know about it.

You're doing all you can to prevent them, so keep an eye on your TPMS if you have one, and consider one if you don't.
Hideout17
Explorer
Nov 02, 2015
I have read alto on tire failures. I keep my tires checked both air and temp. I keep between 60 and 65. What else can I do to prevent tire blow outs? When a tire does blow do you hear it or feel it? I haven't had one yet but I am still new to this yet. Our first trip was 1300 miles to Florida. I had to put 800$ on my truck the P series tired weren't cutting it. I do look at my tires for side bulges and tread damage too...
gmw_photos
Explorer
Oct 31, 2015
To the OP: some folks believe that ST tires are the holy grail for trailer applications. No matter what is said, they will never be convinced otherwise. Which is of course, fine and dandy.

However, my bet is that you, like many of the rest of us, will replace the tires on your trailer with quality LT's....and then go tow in confidence with a greater likelihood of success.

Everybody gets to pay their money, and make their choices. Best of luck to all, and safe travels.
tsetsaf
Explorer III
Oct 31, 2015
This type of stuff pisses me off... clearly inferior materials that damaged property and put the motoring public at risk. We had the exact same issue on a Keystone product years ago. When we bought this rig new the first things I replaced were whhels and tires (Duravis), suspension bolts hangers and rockers, and king pin. 15,000 miles and zero issues.
NC_Hauler
Explorer
Oct 31, 2015
fj12ryder wrote:
And if the answer to any of those questions is no you still could have the tires blow.

Exactly! You can fill to recommended PSI, run under tires speed rating and NOT overload the tires and you can STILL have a tire failure....too many reports and follow up's on this topic to think everyone who has posted this information after a tire failure is a liar.

Some of the tires put on these towables are nothing more than cheaply manufactured non quality controlled junk...and most RV manufacturers don't care...if they can save a buck , they buy cheap tires by the hundreds, maybe thousands and put them on our rv's and then it's, " out of sight, out of mind".
JIMNLIN
Explorer III
Oct 31, 2015
But had you had LT tires you will never ever have to worry about a blowout for years and years, if you don't believe me just read on here and you will see!!

Mostly true .....its rare but we do see on occasion where some member had some type of issue with a LT tire on a trailer.... but its not just RV.net we see this but every website across the net that has some type of trailering forum for RV or non RV trailers.
fj12ryder
Explorer III
Oct 31, 2015
That would make you one of the few that believe that. I already have more miles and more time with my Sailun LT tires than I ever got with the ST tires that came on my toyhauler.

Or do you think there's a conspiracy and people who have flats with LT tires know they aren't supposed to post about it? :)
tinner12002
Explorer
Oct 31, 2015
But had you had LT tires you will never ever have to worry about a blowout for years and years, if you don't believe me just read on here and you will see!!
Sorry but I don't agree with all the LT tire stuff, if weights, pressures and speeds are maintained properly, I feel the ST tires will serve a person well for I've had great luck with them!! Maxxis 8008s.