Beefing Up Springs

Doolie

Time to up-truck. You have a HD truck.. just not enough HD truck.

Band-aids will never ever ever ever change the fact that you are likely very overloaded.

If you are going to play with a heavy fiver, fact of the matter is that you need a truck to carry the load, not just pull the load.

So, I looked up your trailer the 2010 Jayco Eagle 351rlsa, that trailer is 11050 DRY and has a GVWR of 14950 lbs... so your pin weight is between 2762.50 lbs to 3737.50 lbs and just taking the medium it would be about 3250 lbs ish. Plus 250 for hitch, plus 300 lbs for passengers, and your are seriously looking at close to 4000 lbs you are putting on your truck. That is one ton dually range.

Ummm. thats a LOT of weight for a lot of HD trucks and More than most but the most basic 3/4 tons are rated for.

So, my recommendation... up-truck...

campinrooter wrote:
I have a 2007 Silverado 2500 hd Duramax The 5th wheel squats it real bad so i put air bags on does the job but real pain putting air in and out would a helper spring do the same job and if so what kind Thanks

goducks10 wrote:
Are you overloaded?

Once again, air bags and add on helper springs, don't change the payload, axle rating, or tire rating.

How much is squats real bad in inches. If it sits level normally, a couple inches of squat is going to look real bad, if slightly tail high, loaded it should sit level.

I am slightly over payload, but well under axle and tire ratings, to the point loaded, I still haven't engaged the stock overloads by about 1".

I have the compressor and controller in mine. makes inflating/deflating the bags a piece of cake. well worth the $$$

1mtnman wrote:
I would install the Torklift Stableloads. They do a great job and really will reduce the squat caused by heavy loads.
It brought my rear end up 2.5 inches with my camper on.

Do a search on "stableloads"

x2!!. great product, easy to use, easy to engage or disengage and initial installation is a breeze at least on silverados. And they are way less expensive than air bags.

Are you overloaded?

A helper spring would help but you would be stiffer all the time. I would do as suggested and upgrade your air bag system so that it is easier to adjust.

An onboard compressor and in cab gauges make air bags a lot easier to inflate.
Any competent spring shop should be able to make you some custom springs based on your weight requirements. If you tow most of the time that's probably the way to go. If you drive the truck empty a lot I don't think you'd like the stiffer springs.

Have you looked at the in cab controls for the bags ???

My 2500 Dodge truck didn't come with a aux overload spring pack. So anything over 1500 lbs and it sag too much.

I tried the Timbrens but being less than 4" long they too short which caused the rear suspension to have a very short compression stroke and a violent rebound which after two trips was unacceptable. The ride when empty was normal as the Timbrens don't touch unloaded.

I switched to SuperSprings. I still have the good stock ride when empty. When loaded the truck rear suspension now has the normal compression stoke and normal rebound. Now the rear doesn't sag.

I would install the Torklift Stableloads. They do a great job and really will reduce the squat caused by heavy loads.
It brought my rear end up 2.5 inches with my camper on.

Do a search on "stableloads"