Closing of Threads

End of story....I have stated the position...it will not change. Those of you unhappy are free to leave..... I will delete any further reference to thread closings.

4X4Dodger wrote:
....Closing the thread plays directly into the hands of the poster who is being negative. This is very likely exactly what he wants. So he/she can get a thread closed almost at will. This is not a good policy.

Closing the thread also hurts those of us who would like to hear from those who have worked at a specific place to get a better idea of the reality of the workplace rather than the HR hype from the company. This can be very valuable. We now do not have even the opportunity for such feedback either negative or positive.

Closing the thread for reasons that are not specified in the user agreement/rules should be done extremely rarely if at all.

Finally closing these threads runs counter to what RV.net stated goal is. The only people hurt by the closing are those that want real information and different perspectives on the jobs offered...It does NOT hurt the poster who jumps on with a negative comment...it only encourages them.

X2. We are all adults here and should be given the opportunity to block someone who offends us if we wish. I would like to be afforded the opportunity to further my knowledge of a situation by reading the good, the bad, and the ugly!

Lets all turn and acknowledge the Elephant in the Room.

It is simply this: I believe in openness (with civility and within rules of decorum) I believe that the more we hear especially if it is negative, can be valuable in posts like these. Just as valuable if not more than the Rah Rah cheerleading that passes for so much information here.

I believe we are all ADULTS and can filter for ourselves the cranks and the flammers and that many will have enough sense to separate the wheat from the chaff.

My view of the Moderators mindset is this:

She believes that we all should be protected(especially the Employers) from negativity.

She believes she has found the solution DESPITE many comments to the contrary and the evidence.

She is completely sure in her belief she is RIGHT and will not consider even a compromise. I think this is the part that is most disturbing.

I also think that many on this forum are afraid to disagree with her because she is so quick to delete that they are afraid that they will be banned for no more than simple disagreement about how the thread is moderated. (I do not share this belief)

While the idea to start another thread about an employment notice is one way to do this, what does it accomplish? If you are going to have a truly open discussion about an employer or a particular job why not just leave it under the original job post? There is nothing gained by opening another thread.

I realize that the Moderator has been in her position for a very very long time and that she gives of her time and efforts freely. I also acknowledge that she is doing what she thinks best. I also acknowledge that there may have been a time when the forum was not so polite and that she has weathered some challenges. But times change, situations change and demand new perspectives, new strategies and an open mindset to be able to move forward to improve.

Thanks to all of those that contributed to this thread. I think it has been an important airing of ideas and opinions. I hope that things will change as far as the employment posts are concerned as this is one of the most important parts of this site for many who need to work as well as travel.

4X4Dodger wrote:

maddczech wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:
maddczech" or "Mczech What ever name you are using today.

In an effort to be fair I went back and tried to re-read your post.

WOW it has been removed!!!! Imagine that.

Maybe because it was off topic?

As you admit to not reading all of the thread, I thought you might like to know.

Happy Camping

I went back and checked. I did read the whole thread. Someone, western rv? commented with amazon in the mix. In the 6th or 7th post in the thread. If deletions are for thread off topic it could be a one page thread. The moderatirs are for good sam and goodsams bedmates. Take that however you wish, or interpret at will, lol . One question though, how mant goodsam members come back with success stories regarding goodsam team handling there beef/claim? Answer: very few.

Well, while the thread was mainly about the closing of threads by what I view as an over zealous moderator AMAZON was at the core of the discussion and was the thread that started this one. I dont see that as "Off Topic"

While maddczech might not use a lot of pretty language or punctuation and he may not be as "politically correct" as some might like. I for one would have wanted to hear his contribution. Not every good book has a pretty cover. But that doesnt negate the value or veracity of what he may write here on this forum.

I agree and sent him a PM.

maddczech wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:
maddczech" or "Mczech What ever name you are using today.

In an effort to be fair I went back and tried to re-read your post.

WOW it has been removed!!!! Imagine that.

Maybe because it was off topic?

As you admit to not reading all of the thread, I thought you might like to know.

Happy Camping

I went back and checked. I did read the whole thread. Someone, western rv? commented with amazon in the mix. In the 6th or 7th post in the thread. If deletions are for thread off topic it could be a one page thread. The moderatirs are for good sam and goodsams bedmates. Take that however you wish, or interpret at will, lol . One question though, how mant goodsam members come back with success stories regarding goodsam team handling there beef/claim? Answer: very few.

Well, while the thread was mainly about the closing of threads by what I view as an over zealous moderator AMAZON was at the core of the discussion and was the thread that started this one. I dont see that as "Off Topic"

While maddczech might not use a lot of pretty language or punctuation and he may not be as "politically correct" as some might like. I for one would have wanted to hear his contribution. Not every good book has a pretty cover. But that doesnt negate the value or veracity of what he may write here on this forum.

Dog Folks wrote:
maddczech" or "Mczech What ever name you are using today.

In an effort to be fair I went back and tried to re-read your post.

WOW it has been removed!!!! Imagine that.

Maybe because it was off topic?

As you admit to not reading all of the thread, I thought you might like to know.

Happy Camping

I went back and checked. I did read the whole thread. Someone, western rv? commented with amazon in the mix. In the 6th or 7th post in the thread. If deletions are for thread off topic it could be a one page thread. The moderatirs are for good sam and goodsams bedmates. Take that however you wish, or interpret at will, lol . One question though, how mant goodsam members come back with success stories regarding goodsam team handling there beef/claim? Answer: very few.

maddczech" or "Mczech What ever name you are using today.

In an effort to be fair I went back and tried to re-read your post.

WOW it has been removed!!!! Imagine that.

Maybe because it was off topic?

As you admit to not reading all of the thread, I thought you might like to know.

Happy Camping

westernrvparkowner wrote:

maddczech wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:
I used to be a staunch supporter against closing work camper threads. But after this particular thread (Workers wanted,) just turned into a name calling, sniping thread that had nothing to do with the job posting, I now understand why.

Further the thread goes off track quickly as evidenced by maddczech, just above me. He has every right to post this information and bash Amazon, BUT this thread is not about them, but rather the closing of threads. If your want to discuss other things the place of employment, start another thread. It is not hard.

I now see the wisdom of closing work camping job listings threads.

This just my opinion and I hope that Diane will chime in and explain it better.

Mczech here, sorry about the curveball I so " viciously " interjected in the thread . I get notifications. However this time I chimed in when notified w/ o reading the complete thread from the beginning. Omg it wasn't about @mazon ! But I read the comment about amzon.... Yup well shoot me. I didn't bash amazon. But I could. You ain't in my shoes , they don't fit you. Please don't assume. You know the adage about that ! But since you all about thread ettiquette and not about workcamping for amazon. Anybody want more bout that just contact me. Amazon does have good points in the camperforce program. But you gotta wanna work !

There is a thread in this forum where the person who started it is practically begging people to bash Amazon. That would be a good place for you to tell the world that getting a paycheck at Amazon requires having to work for it. Apparently that is something not everyone realizes, that paying jobs usually require that you perform some work. I always assumed people knew that. Silly Me.

Ahhh westernrvparkowner you are so old school....;)

maddczech wrote:

Dog Folks wrote:
I used to be a staunch supporter against closing work camper threads. But after this particular thread (Workers wanted,) just turned into a name calling, sniping thread that had nothing to do with the job posting, I now understand why.

Further the thread goes off track quickly as evidenced by maddczech, just above me. He has every right to post this information and bash Amazon, BUT this thread is not about them, but rather the closing of threads. If your want to discuss other things the place of employment, start another thread. It is not hard.

I now see the wisdom of closing work camping job listings threads.

This just my opinion and I hope that Diane will chime in and explain it better.

Mczech here, sorry about the curveball I so " viciously " interjected in the thread . I get notifications. However this time I chimed in when notified w/ o reading the complete thread from the beginning. Omg it wasn't about @mazon ! But I read the comment about amzon.... Yup well shoot me. I didn't bash amazon. But I could. You ain't in my shoes , they don't fit you. Please don't assume. You know the adage about that ! But since you all about thread ettiquette and not about workcamping for amazon. Anybody want more bout that just contact me. Amazon does have good points in the camperforce program. But you gotta wanna work !

There is a thread in this forum where the person who started it is practically begging people to bash Amazon. That would be a good place for you to tell the world that getting a paycheck at Amazon requires having to work for it. Apparently that is something not everyone realizes, that paying jobs usually require that you perform some work. I always assumed people knew that. Silly Me.

Dog Folks wrote:
I used to be a staunch supporter against closing work camper threads. But after this particular thread (Workers wanted,) just turned into a name calling, sniping thread that had nothing to do with the job posting, I now understand why.

Further the thread goes off track quickly as evidenced by maddczech, just above me. He has every right to post this information and bash Amazon, BUT this thread is not about them, but rather the closing of threads. If your want to discuss other things the place of employment, start another thread. It is not hard.

I now see the wisdom of closing work camping job listings threads.

This just my opinion and I hope that Diane will chime in and explain it better.

Mczech here, sorry about the curveball I so " viciously " interjected in the thread . I get notifications. However this time I chimed in when notified w/ o reading the complete thread from the beginning. Omg it wasn't about @mazon ! But I read the comment about amzon.... Yup well shoot me. I didn't bash amazon. But I could. You ain't in my shoes , they don't fit you. Please don't assume. You know the adage about that ! But since you all about thread ettiquette and not about workcamping for amazon. Anybody want more bout that just contact me. Amazon does have good points in the camperforce program. But you gotta wanna work !