Health Care Costs

wing_zealot wrote:

NJRVer wrote:
Interesting, I wonder how many on here that are bashing the ACA are on Medicare, Medicaid, or VA health care?

All three "socialist" healthcare.

Seems to be a lot of "I got mine. The h*** with everybody else" attitudes.

I'm not on Medcicare, Medicaid, VA, or any other health care plan except the one I pay for myself. My out of pocket expenses are now very close to $20,000.00 per year (I hate to add them up it makes me sick). So you can stick your "I got mine" where the sun don't shine. Cause I'm paying for mine and a whole lot of someone else's too.

I just want to take this opportunity to thank you for paying my Medicare premiums and also my SSI. My working for 50 yrs and paying as much as $40,000 a yr. in taxes does not count, I know. :h

NJRVer wrote:
Interesting, I wonder how many on here that are bashing the ACA are on Medicare, Medicaid, or VA health care?

All three "socialist" healthcare.

Seems to be a lot of "I got mine. The h*** with everybody else" attitudes.

I'm not on Medcicare, Medicaid, VA, or any other health care plan except the one I pay for myself. My out of pocket expenses are now very close to $20,000.00 per year (I hate to add them up it makes me sick). So you can stick your "I got mine" where the sun don't shine. Cause I'm paying for mine and a whole lot of someone else's too.

I agree Travelnutz, I am a consumer and also a provider of health care and the present system is not sustainable. Everyone needs coverage but everyone including the poorest needs to have skin in the game to make the system work. We need to get off of dependency on the government as a way of life.

steveh27,

Your post about those who have contributed into Medicare and VA NOT being socialistic is 100% accurate and very true! Especially as to healthcare as it's you and the others like you who have made it possible for there to even be such in existence.

Being self employed for 99+% of my after college means I had contributed double the percentage of my income to SS/Medicare and others. Self employed persons pay both the employers half and the employees half of SS which is exactly double what a hired employee pays. I more than paid for any Medicare or SS benefits I will receive. So far from being "socialistic" or "socialism"!

I strongly favor personal SS/Medical savings accounts with each of them receiving interest on at the federal bank loan rate on the amount of balance accrued at the end of each quarter period of each year or even semi-annually. We have computers today that will do that automatically so it's not a bookkeeping issue. You only can receive the total value accrued in your own SS account and should you die before your fund us exhausted and ALL debts INCLUDING your healthcare expenses left at the time of your death have been paid in full and your estate having been disolved or passed on to your surviving spouse or designated legal blood children per your will, the remaining balance will go to the next of kin or the benefactor/benefactors in your legal registered will.

Any death tax collected can only be used for paying off any remaing balance where the account holder's medical expenses exceeded their total savings and estate. The death tax fund being available only for such use for the individual account holder or the legal U.S. citizen's general public accounts holders needs. It's your money and why shouldn't you have control of where it will go and to where you want it to go? You don't pay in, you will not and cannot receive out either!

The freebies and population lives control are what socialism is really about. Neither Medicare nor VA healthcare is remotely related to socialism!

I would suggest you all search Alexander Tyler and read his thoughts on democracy. We in the U.S. are between apathy and dependency. Our time is limited.

NJRVer wrote:
Interesting, I wonder how many on here that are bashing the ACA are on Medicare, Medicaid, or VA health care?

All three "socialist" healthcare.

Seems to be a lot of "I got mine. The h*** with everybody else" attitudes.

BS, nothing 'socialist' about medicare & VA. I paid for my medicare over my lifetime. Vets served their country, risking their lives & earned their VA benefits.

Webster defines socialism = "collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods." Quit trying to scare people from supporting a better insurance system.

You would rather have the corrupt system now with overpaid lobbyists from insurers, drug companies, etc. giving huge donations to their candidates to support their private industries to the detriment of private Americans? Cut out the middlemen of insurers.

Why has every other western democracy got some form of single payer insurance system which gives them better health outcomes at 25-50% lower cost?

Wonder how the health program would work if it was restricted to those who are here legally and those who are born to legal parents?

Two years on Medicaid will get you on to Medicare without ever having paid any money into it. My dentist accepts Medicaid patients who receive free 6 months check ups and care. He has an interpreter on staff because many don't speak English. Child care is subsidized. So many programs and it is no wonder there is so much waste because of the inability to properly track those who use them.

When my son was in high school his principal once said "We are responsible for the education of children from age 4 through 21. One day we will be responsible from birth to the grave." Our government is already at that point.

How much longer can we sustain this. Greece has gone past the point of no return and is about to collapse.

NJRVer wrote:
Interesting, I wonder how many on here that are bashing the ACA are on Medicare, Medicaid, or VA health care?

All three "socialist" healthcare.

Seems to be a lot of "I got mine. The h*** with everybody else" attitudes.

:B .......

Interesting, I wonder how many on here that are bashing the ACA are on Medicare, Medicaid, or VA health care?

All three "socialist" healthcare.

Seems to be a lot of "I got mine. The h*** with everybody else" attitudes.