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National Senior Pass prices rising

scdiver
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I just left the Ulysses S. Grant Nation Park in St. Louis County were I found out the Senior Pass cost is going up August 28th to Eighty Dollars. The fact of the rise in price is not news to me, just the actual date is. I also found out that you can buy multiple passes in case you loose one or to leave in multiple cars. The pass is per individual and can not be used by any other person, even your spouse. There was a line of people buying passes and the ranger claimed that they have sold over a hundred today.
My original pass has saved me over Six Hundred Fifty Dollars in our travels so I bought an extra pass for just in case. If you are over 62 and want one, now would be the time to get one or to get a spare!

Just an FYI.
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Dutch_12078
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DiskDoctr wrote:
Well, by the reasoning used by the "if you can't afford it, don't camp" crowd, may as well raise fuel prices 800%, too.

Hey, if you can't afford the fuel, you shouldn't be driving the rig.

And taxes. Make over $80k per year, raise your taxes by 800%, you can afford it, right? Equalize all pay to $80k per year for everyone, tax up to 100% above that...

Yeah, the "I can afford it, so who cares if they raise the fees" argument dies very quickly.

But not to worry, not like TAX MONIES pay or have paid for the parks or anything :roll:

Why is spending and taxes out of control? Because they can...ergo they will.

When taxes and fuel become pay once and good for life, please let me know. Until then, "apples and oranges"...
Dutch
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pnichols
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starcraft69 wrote:
I think the extra $70 over my lifetime will make it that I have to give up RVing How tragic. I feel so bad for all of us in $50,000 + rigs. How will we ever come up with $70 over the rest of our life.


Yup ... I run across that reasoning all the time ... and good old American Capitalism loves it.

The Capitalist Powers That Be want us to automatically accept - or not notice - or rationalize - the thousands of small increases that nickel and dime us to a slow death. A few more dollars leaking away here and few more dollars leakng away there ... and pretty soon you're talking about real poverty.

I watch, and challenge, and try to eliminate, the leaking dollars constantly because I've finally noticed over a lifetime that the somewhat big pile of money it takes for great RV trips is usually made up of a whole bunch of small piles of change that you kept from leaking away. :C
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DiskDoctr
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Well, by the reasoning used by the "if you can't afford it, don't camp" crowd, may as well raise fuel prices 800%, too.

Hey, if you can't afford the fuel, you shouldn't be driving the rig.

And taxes. Make over $80k per year, raise your taxes by 800%, you can afford it, right? Equalize all pay to $80k per year for everyone, tax up to 100% above that...

Yeah, the "I can afford it, so who cares if they raise the fees" argument dies very quickly.

But not to worry, not like TAX MONIES pay or have paid for the parks or anything :roll:

Why is spending and taxes out of control? Because they can...ergo they will.

Dutch_12078
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DiskDoctr wrote:
starcraft69 wrote:
I think the extra $70 over my lifetime will make it that I have to give up RVing How tragic. I feel so bad for all of us in $50,000 + rigs. How will we ever come up with $70 over the rest of our life.


800% increase in price. 'nuf said ๐Ÿ˜‰

Well, for those of you that can't afford the $80 in one shot, they did at least provide a means of "financing" it interest free over four years...
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DiskDoctr
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starcraft69 wrote:
I think the extra $70 over my lifetime will make it that I have to give up RVing How tragic. I feel so bad for all of us in $50,000 + rigs. How will we ever come up with $70 over the rest of our life.


800% increase in price. 'nuf said ๐Ÿ˜‰

starcraft69
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I think the extra $70 over my lifetime will make it that I have to give up RVing How tragic. I feel so bad for all of us in $50,000 + rigs. How will we ever come up with $70 over the rest of our life.
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Dutch_12078
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DC&MC wrote:
DH already had one but we went and bought one in my name, I hate to think it would cost $80 to replace if he lost his so now we both have one.

Which is a good practice anyway, since some day use areas require each person to have their own pass for free entry.
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DC_MC
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DH already had one but we went and bought one in my name, I hate to think it would cost $80 to replace if he lost his so now we both have one.
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beemerphile1
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Bobbo wrote:
PAThwacker wrote:
I live next to a National Recreation Area. I don't use the passes or any of the parks perks. I can't even launch a boat for $20 per entry. You have to take the boat in and out to different launches to fish. You can fish a state park portion for free. The National Rec Area mentioned is Delaware Water Gap, If you know the demo that uses it: Keyword: Ghetto 75 miles east Not the local watercraft owners, lol.


I have no earthly idea what you just said.


Me neither and doubt it has anything to do with the price of the geezer pass.
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Bobbo
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PAThwacker wrote:
I live next to a National Recreation Area. I don't use the passes or any of the parks perks. I can't even launch a boat for $20 per entry. You have to take the boat in and out to different launches to fish. You can fish a state park portion for free. The National Rec Area mentioned is Delaware Water Gap, If you know the demo that uses it: Keyword: Ghetto 75 miles east Not the local watercraft owners, lol.

I have no earthly idea what you just said.
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PAThwacker
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I live next to a National Recreation Area. I don't use the passes or any of the parks perks. I can't even launch a boat for $20 per entry. You have to take the boat in and out to different launches to fish. You can fish a state park portion for free. The National Rec Area mentioned is Delaware Water Gap, If you know the demo that uses it: Keyword: Ghetto 75 miles east Not the local watercraft owners, lol.
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beemerphile1 wrote:
You got bad info. I work at the local NP. They are to issue vouchers/rain checks that are good until the stock of cards is replenished. Until you get the card, your receipt is your card.


Yeah, that's what it sounds like from the website.

Here is the posting, maybe you can reach out to them, help out your fellow NP guys and gals ๐Ÿ˜‰

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beemerphile1
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DiskDoctr wrote:
One of our local parks posted they are OUT OF SENIOR PASSES until the new $80 version comes out.

They were only allotted 500 passes and cannot get any more, though there are still several WEEKS before the price increase.

Sounds like a way to systematically CHEAT Citizens, IMHO. ๐Ÿ˜ž


You got bad info. I work at the local NP. They are to issue vouchers/rain checks that are good until the stock of cards is replenished. Until you get the card, your receipt is your card.
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DiskDoctr
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PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:
If you go to the park and apply for the pass, you get a receipt/ rain check for the $10 pass which is valid until you can get the plastic pass.

Scroll down to the section on Having Trouble Getting A Pass

Also note that the record number of passes from the online store was 33,000 in a year. So far in 2017 over 250,000 have been issued

(When we were campground hosts at a national park three years ago one of the permanent staff mentioned to me that the park had ordered 1,000 senior passes four or five years previously and had not issued half of them.

I was surprised that only about one in four seniors who camped in the CG had a pass. The others had not heard of it. )


Thank you for this info! I passed it on to one of out local parks who sent out a Facebook post saying they couldn't get any more passes. Hopefully this helps them, too! ๐Ÿ˜‰