Oregon State Parks and Smoking

My old boss at Boeing had a sign in the office that read "If you are seen to be emitting smoke, it will be assumed that you are on fire and approriate countermeasures will be taken".

You might guess he was British!

RGar974417 wrote:
I gave up smoking 33 years ago,but jeeze,if you can't smoke outside,why don't they just ban it.Oh yeah,then they wouldn't be able to get all that tax money.I think you would call that,hypocritical.

Oh so true! And the most idiotic part is the states and feds are taxing themselves out of this particular windfall. The reason that tobacco tax rates keep going up is because fewer people are paying them because they are 'encouraged' to quit (or never start). That makes revenues go DOWN. I cannot imagine that Congress and the Legislatures are eager for tobacco and its tax windfall to vanish entirely. Yet that is exactly where they are headed with this.

How will they replace this lost revenue? Oh, I forgot, reduced health care costs. Who really believes that?

This stuff is not as funny as many of you seem to think. Again Government runs amok and it is run by morons. Seems that most of those posting see this as a HA HA tuff luck for smokers.....Wait till some politician - read crook, comes after your particular legal thing. I'm quite certain I can find some activity that you enjoy objectionable; perhaps you are a hunter or a fisherman.....That's just another name for killer or murderer, if you want seafood or meat go to the store and buy it. Perhaps you like to go four wheeling...a disgusting activity that destroys our forests and private lands.... You should remember the Nazis. Lots of Germans thought that it wasn't so bad when this group or that was hauled off....right up until it was their turn to be hauled off - no one left to stand up to tyranny. Make no mistake that's what this is all about, socialism at its worst. Government begins by taking away rights that some find offensive and so many do not object, next government comes after the rights of the 2nd amendment then the first amendment then the fourth amendment. Paraphrasing John Wayne " A fella gets used to goring oxen and pretty soon he'll be coming to gore your's. Folks better wake up. This is no joke. There are many things government should do....regulating personal behavior isn't one of them. I am one of the 1% that stepped up to the call of my country to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic - thank you.....These days there are way more domestic enemies to be concerned about than foreign and the majority are politicians some fool voted for. The Brits found out how bad it can get when the governed become fed up......soon it will happen again. My cigar is lit and my guns are well oiled and I am waiting.

hops wrote:
Ugh. Just another law of oppression. May as well tell us what we can do, rather than not. It would be a shorter read.

I had more on my mind, but it is so frustrating having the government pass more and more laws without direct voter input, my head is going to explode. These 'peers' that show up to meetings do not provide a balanced cross section of the people. At least I'm not in Portland, but I'm stuck in the same county.

Then again, maybe I'm the responsible smoker and don't understand the issue?

No direct voter input? The voters put those guys in office. That's how direct voter input works.

JMO but I'm guessing that the bill would pass 100% of the time with direct voter input. Smoking is frowned upon across the U.S.

donn0128 - will see your state for the 5th time rv'ing for a month end of Aug / early Sept.

I gave up 3 1/2 packs per day some 46 years ago. Smoke, in general, now bothers me and also the wife.

That being said, I would rather have someone smoking a cigarette next to me than a cigar!

That being said, we have to avoid many state parks, etc, as a wood burning campfire right next to us with the smoke infiltrating our RV is even worse than a cigar. Well, maybe they are close. :-)

Can't say, i've told to much as it is...:)

dreeder wrote:
I smoke, shop at Walmart and like guns....You don't get much lower than me...:B

You are almost the lowest it gets...do you run ST tires? Well, do ya?

downtheroad wrote:
Well, I will be the first to apologize to you all. I started this thread and I am sincerely sorry.

Let's all just get along and get back to talking about tires, Walmart and guns instead.

We forgive you,but what a great way to fire up (pun intentional), the "us" VS "them" controversy!

It was fun. I enjoyed it.

I smoke, shop at Walmart and like guns....You don't get much lower than me...:B

Well, I will be the first to apologize to you all. I started this thread and I am sincerely sorry.

Let's all just get along and get back to talking about tires, Walmart and guns instead.