โJun-15-2022 04:00 PM
โDec-03-2022 12:29 AM
JaxDad wrote:Pbutler97 wrote:
Ok. I sure would like to see a regulation by some government entity be it local, state, federal where that certification is required.
OK, just to randomly pick one, Nebraska. Clicky. Which actually says itโs not even legal to โsell, or display for saleโ an RV that doesnโt meet standards under NFPA 1192.
โDec-02-2022 04:34 PM
โDec-02-2022 03:10 PM
magicbus wrote:.JaxDad wrote:Well you can believe that it you want to, thatโs fine. But they wouldnโt ask for FMVSS or RVIA, or anything else because they would run the VIN, and guess what, it would come back as certified by whoever self-certifies school bus chassis. Same as mine comes back certified by whoever certifies Sprinter chassisโฆ and it ainโt Winnebago.magicbus wrote:
Who here ever had to provide RVIA information to register or insure their RV? Not me.
Dave
Me neither. They donโt ask when I register my car / truck / SUVโs either even though theyโre legally required to be certified as being built to the FMVSS.
Why? Because they know that Ford / GM / Chrysler /XYZ Auto company build only units built to code and certified as such.
The same as they know every Winnebago (or your favourite flavour of commercial RV) is also built to standards and certified as such.
Dave
โDec-02-2022 02:26 PM
JaxDad wrote:Well you can believe that it you want to, thatโs fine. But they wouldnโt ask for FMVSS or RVIA, or anything else because they would run the VIN, and guess what, it would come back as certified by whoever self-certifies school bus chassis. Same as mine comes back certified by whoever certifies Sprinter chassisโฆ and it ainโt Winnebago.magicbus wrote:
Who here ever had to provide RVIA information to register or insure their RV? Not me.
Dave
Me neither. They donโt ask when I register my car / truck / SUVโs either even though theyโre legally required to be certified as being built to the FMVSS.
Why? Because they know that Ford / GM / Chrysler /XYZ Auto company build only units built to code and certified as such.
The same as they know every Winnebago (or your favourite flavour of commercial RV) is also built to standards and certified as such.
โDec-02-2022 01:31 PM
magicbus wrote:
Who here ever had to provide RVIA information to register or insure their RV? Not me.
Dave
โDec-02-2022 01:25 PM
nickthehunter wrote:JaxDad wrote:These arenโt Recreational Vehicles, theyโre stripped out school buses, otherwise well known to NASCAR fans as School Bus Conversions; readily insurable and driven down the road legally (without a RVIA sticker even in Greenwood Nebraska). Undeniably - Sometimes also known to be seen in campgrounds all around the country.Pbutler97 wrote:
Ok. I sure would like to see a regulation by some government entity be it local, state, federal where that certification is required.
OK, just to randomly pick one, Nebraska. Clicky. Which actually says itโs not even legal to โsell, or display for saleโ an RV that doesnโt meet standards under NFPA 1192.
โDec-02-2022 11:47 AM
โDec-02-2022 04:53 AM
JaxDad wrote:These arenโt Recreational Vehicles, theyโre stripped out school buses, otherwise well known to NASCAR fans as School Bus Conversions; readily insurable and driven down the road legally (without a RVIA sticker even in Greenwood Nebraska). Undeniably - Sometimes also known to be seen in campgrounds all around the country.Pbutler97 wrote:
Ok. I sure would like to see a regulation by some government entity be it local, state, federal where that certification is required.
OK, just to randomly pick one, Nebraska. Clicky. Which actually says itโs not even legal to โsell, or display for saleโ an RV that doesnโt meet standards under NFPA 1192.
โDec-01-2022 02:33 PM
Pbutler97 wrote:
Ok. I sure would like to see a regulation by some government entity be it local, state, federal where that certification is required.
โDec-01-2022 01:37 PM
Grit dog wrote:JaxDad wrote:Grit dog wrote:
In short, too many bleeding hearts whos heart strings get tugged at while watching tweakers or almost tweakers live the van life that actually support them and then give them a little hope that their money for nothing scheme actually will work indefinitely.
But they are a fad not a productive part of society.
I think you need to do a little research on how much money social media mavens and โinfluencersโ can (and do) make, in cold, hard CASH before you make yourself look a little silly in front of folks younger than us.
A friends son is one of those โalmost tweakersโ who has a YouTube channel with well north of a million subscribers.
He clears US$10k ++ per month.
I stand corrected if youโre insinuating that there are a lot, or even a few, #vanlifers and #skoolies that are making $100k+ a year doing this. Or even a median income plus all their expenses.
Iโm not talking about Jake Paul and all the other YooToob โinfluencersโ here.
โDec-01-2022 10:12 AM
2014 RAM 3500 Diesel 4x4 Dually long bed. B&W RVK3600 hitch โข 2015 Crossroads Elevation Homestead Toy Hauler ("The Taj Mahauler") โข <\br >Toys:
โDec-01-2022 09:01 AM
โDec-01-2022 06:42 AM
JaxDad wrote:Pbutler97 wrote:JaxDad wrote:LMHS wrote:
The big deal is getting the lousy thing titled as a motorhome and getting insured. There is basically only one outfit that will insure a skoolie. A few others will but they often get the policies cancelled at some point (usually at the worst time).
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As for long term winter parking, try mobile home parks. And a lot of private campgrounds/rv/mh parks do not want a skoolie in their parks for long term stays.
I suspect both of those issues are because of the same issue, you touched on it in your post, unless these units are built to, and certified as complying with required standards, itโs usually illegal to insure them or allow them in a park.
What required standards? DOT standards? State Motor vehicle standards?
If you're referring to this,
It's basically self certification. 1 out of a 1000 might see an inspection by the RVIA, and thats probably a low total number, probably more like 1 in 10000. Its a joke. Ask any buyer who discovered crushed HVAC ducts filled with debris, leaking pex fittings on supply lines or drain connections left loose, or bad wiring or better yet or wires pinched between frame and floor.
Where are these parks that are not allowing RV's/Campers in without someone approving some imaginary standard? Do they have a standard officer at the front gate?
Self-certification is a joke?
Donโt tell pilots, architects, engineers, lawyers or doctors that, all professions with โself-certificationโ of very strict regulations.
Next time you open the door to get in your vehicle pause for a moment and look down at the white label that says the manufacturer โself-certifiesโ that it complies with the FMVSS.
Is it legally required? You betcha! Does anyone stop you to check itโs there? Not very likely.
But to answer your question, yes, read that label, it clearly says the unit itโs affixed to conforms to certain life safety standards. In most cases the requirement for a certified unit is not the park, but the States life safety requirements. Almost every State has these requirements.
I can point you however one particular park where it is absolutely both in their written policies, and enforced as such, I know because I watched someone get turfed because of it.
Jetty Park at Cape Canaveral Florida. Clicky, clicky.
Read item 24.4.
โDec-01-2022 05:49 AM
pianotuna wrote:I hope not, cause I failed. LOL I hate click-bait. One, of many, things I hate about Facebook. And don't watch YouTube videos, except if I need to research something. "Influencers" don't interest me, and why do I think of the Kardashians whenever that term comes up. ๐free radical wrote:
Then there are people with real talent,
https://youtu.be/LwpbK4kwo9E
Is this a test to see who actually clicks on a link??