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Ductape_Dave
Explorer
Apr 02, 2013

Adding Circuit Breaker to Panel?

I have a 2011 class C with a Progressive Dynamics PD4506K18LS1 30amp panel. I added a 20amp outlet and when I installed the breaker there was no power. After checking it out I found the hot bar where I installed the breaker has a 1/4" gap from the live hot bar. Is this done on purpose so it doesn't get overloaded? If not how does one connect the 2 hot bars together? I only wanted to add one breaker and hope I don't have to install a separate cord out to the campgound breaker panel. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Dave
  • enblethen wrote:
    According to the installation instructions th power unit is set up for 50 amp service. You would need to jumper second half from an existing breaker output to heat up the other half.
    If you have full size, one inch thick breakers you could buy thin wafer breakers to use as installed. I would be exrtremely careful; about jumpering the bus work with those circuit breakers. Look closely at drawing. It shows a red going to one breaker and black going to the other. Yours is set up with only the black.


    What breaker was he using? Do you know the brand name? Was it cutler hammer, square d or maybe westinghouse?
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
    Explorer III
    Several comments. First, sounds like a 50 amp box with two bus bars However I seem to recall a Progressive Dynamics box that was set up for inverter.

    In MY Progressive box the breakers are lined up like this

    Main-1 Main-2 L-1 L-2 L-1 L-2 L-1 L-2

    L can be "Leg" or Load" all the 1's are the same leg, all the 2's are the other leg.

    I seem to recall they once made a box designed for use with inverters.

    This one was layed out like this. Main Load, Load, Load Load Inverter Inverter Inverter

    If you do not have an inverter simply jumper the two buses, or put in a 30 amp breaker in one of the slots and move selected breakers to the "Inverter" bar. (Feed the inverter bar off the 30 amp brance breaker)

    In my 50 amp house when they added the inverter... They put in a whole new breaker box.
  • There is nothing wrong with attaching the second wire to the existing circuit breaker. It will still work fine.

    Yes you do have to be careful about the number of circuit breakers allowed in a 30 amp distribution panel. In mine, there are a total of 4 breakers, all connected to the same main bussbar. The 30 amp main is a minitwin breaker with a 20 amp, and there is another mini-twin breaker with a 20 and 15 amp breaker. That is pretty normal for a 30 amp panel.

    I would first mark the circuit breakers, so that you know what one is feeding the A/C and microwave, and other circuits, before deciding on what one you will put both wires on. If your primary reason for running the new receptacle is to plug in a heater, then the one marked A/C would be a excellent pick, as you will not be plugging in the heater and running the A/C at the same time. Yet if you wanted to use the new receptacle to run an electric fry pan, and also would normally be running the A/C in the summer, you would have to decide which to run, as you could not run both on less than 20 amps. So putting it on the same breaker as the TV sets, and not the microwave might work out better?



    Fred.
  • According to the installation instructions th power unit is set up for 50 amp service. You would need to jumper second half from an existing breaker output to heat up the other half.
    If you have full size, one inch thick breakers you could buy thin wafer breakers to use as installed. I would be exrtremely careful; about jumpering the bus work.
    PD4506
    Look closely at drawing. It shows a red going to one breaker and black going to the other. Yours is set up with only the black.

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