ktmrfs wrote:
JaxDad wrote:
ktmrfs wrote:
JaxDad wrote:
ktmrfs wrote:
Don't feel left out. I'm not a fan of the keyless go either. The fobs for my keyless go vehicles
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4) no way to just have a spare Key
Spares are easy to obtain.
key to open the door, yes, those are inexpensive, RFID key or a key to let you start the car, in Most cases nope, need a keyless go fob. even if the fob battery is dead, place the fob next to the keyless go to start, but no way to have a real key to start the car. There are/were a few exceptions, where there is a hidden slot for a RFID key to start the car. AFAIK all the keyless go systems also have a key in the fob to let you unlock the car, but that's about it. Early on keyless it was common to have a hidden key slot but most mfg have gone away with that since the FOB w/o a battery near the keyless go button is a work around to a spare key slot.
Read my earlier post, I’ve had numerous RFID chips duplicated, cheap and easy to do.
Many car mfg have gone away from a seperate RFID or similar chip in the fob, when the got away from a key with a chip and went completely to keyless go with no "emergency key" to start the car.
On every 'kelyless go' car I've seen so far (including all my MB's and my employees Porsche's and Audi's) the 'keyless go' button is just like a permanently installed push-button key that fits into the ignition spot the same as any conventional digital key would if you didn't have the 'keyless go' option installed.
If the push-button dies or is inop. for any reason you just pop the button out and inset the key into the ignition slot, just like they did back in the 'old days'. LOL
In fact when I got my bride her new MB I pulled the 'keyless go' button out of the old one (we gave her old car to my daughter who was afraid the children would start the car with it) and had it programmed into her new one.