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front door lock broke,,NOW WHAT???{{{{UPDATE}}}}}}

joelyn
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went to lock the trailer front door tonight and it locked ok but than I could not get the key out. Finally was able to wiggle it out but now I cannot get the key back in to unlock the lock. So locked out.
Any idea as to what happened and what I can do to fix it? Window are all closed also.
thanks
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MEXICOWANDERER
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fla-gypsy
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joelyn wrote:
UPDATE}}}}}} UPDATE}}}}}}
OK, when I got up this Am i contacted my car ins. company (Geico), they also insure our trailer and explained the problem with my lock and he stated that we are covered for a locksmith to come out up to 100.00 per incident. So they contacted a locksmith in our area and they found one that would do the job for 55.00.
So 2 hours later he showed up and stuck a lock picking pick in the cylinder and popped open the lock. he said that on these FIC locks a pin inside sometimes slips making the lock think its locked and somehow will not let the key to be inserted. He stated that it happens sometimes as the lock gets older and the parts start to wear down inside. He said it may not ever happen again but advised to replace the lock since they are fairly a cheap insurance .
So I will look for one on line and replace it this weekend.
So all in all everything worked out fine with no damage being caused to anything and best of all no cost to me.
Want to thank everyone for all the help, suggestions and advise that was offered. As usual, everyone on here is always ready to help out when ever a problem arises. This is my first place to come to to see what can be done no matter what goes wrong.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.


Sanity wins and no travel trailers were harmed in the process. Nice work. Even if you would have had to pay for the locksmith it was always a better choice over cutting up your RV.
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MEXICOWANDERER
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Plastic bag over the head avoiding wearing this food fight...

Quicksilver has an emergency exit like all school buses. It also has in the highly modified windows glass that is laminated rather than tempered.

The emergency door does not have any way to open it from outside. I used a commercial stainless steel dead bolt lock on the main door. The darned lock was so expensive new I settled for a used lock manufactured in 1947. I had a locksmith cut extra keys (the blanks are incredibly difficult to find).

His comment? "Now *this* is a lock!"

Lock fluid every six months and MASKING TAPE over the keyhole when it sits. Masking tape is cheap.

2112
Explorer II
Explorer II
Again, that is YOUR opinion.

You are one weird dude. I have no idea why you want to argue over such petty things.
It's time I try out the ignore feature on this site. I'm done.

By the way, the word is bull headed.
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SoundGuy
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2112 wrote:
You directed comments towards my post just because you see this a different way. All I said was I saw I guy cut his lock assembly with a Dremel to get his door open.


Wrong again ... I simply said that IMO taking a high speed cutting tool such as a Dremel anywhere near a camper is a terrible idea. I don't care who suggests it, you or the man from Timbuktu, I think it's a terrible idea and I said so. You're free to disagree as much as you want but there's no need to direct a personal attack, such as - "You seem to be unable to accept any other method than your own. We have a word for that down here." Well guess what, we have a name for folks like you who choose to argue for the sake of it, casting dispersions on others because you can't come up with anything better to say. The point is, I have my opinion, you have yours ... fine by me, should be fine by you as well - in other words we agree to disagree. ๐Ÿ™‚
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mkirsch
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Friend's wife locked them out of their Class C over labor day weekend. Luckily there was a pass-through from the rear storage compartment into the master bedroom closet. They sent the 12-year-old grandson on a spelunking mission.

Putting 10-ply tires on half ton trucks since aught-four.

2112
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2112 wrote:
Out of your own admission you will not be able to use your alternate entrance without finding a small child but go ahead and knock yourself out.

SoundGuy wrote:
Incorrect, I never said that ...
SoundGuy wrote:
I doubt I could squeeze through one of those openings but a 10 yr old sure would, at which point that same 10 yr old could remove the screws securing the entry door lock. Considering this is such an easy and obvious solution for most to gain entry into their travel trailer in a case where the entry door lock may have failed there's not a chance I'd ever consider taking a Dremel tool or pry or anything else to the door lock. :E
So I'm to believe someone else wrote this?
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2112
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SoundGuy wrote:

It's unfortunate that you can't just agree to disagree but rather find it necessary to be offensive in your comments just because you see this a different way ... so typical. ๐Ÿ˜ž
Man, what are you talking about agreeing to disagree? For some reason you seemed to have taken a personal attack towards me. You directed comments towards my post just because you see this a different way. All I said was I saw I guy cut his lock assembly with a Dremel to get his door open. You repeatedly beat on this. I didn't tell the OP this is the only way to get the job done or this is better than that. Chill out!

Have you ever used a Dremel? Chances of it getting away from you is next to never.

So typical of what? Care to elaborate on this?
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SoundGuy
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2112 wrote:
Out of your own admission you will not be able to use your alternate entrance without finding a small child but go ahead and knock yourself out.


Incorrect, I never said that ... rather, I'm suggesting that if one found it difficult to lift the bed platform (with the weight of the mattress obviously bearing down on it) from inside the storage area below then crawling through cabinet doors that many install on the end of the bed platform for convenience of access could be an option. I'll try it in the spring myself when I mod that storage compartment panel in my own trailer so it can be quickly removed from the pass through side but I have little doubt I will be able to elevate the bed platform with no difficulty at all. It's unfortunate that you can't just agree to disagree but rather find it necessary to be offensive in your comments just because you see this a different way ... so typical. ๐Ÿ˜ž
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2112
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WOW, all I did was relay what I have witnessed. I think you're making a bigger issue of this than warranted.
If you have this grave concern of a little hand tool getting away from someone and causing all this carnage stay away from the dentist. You seem to be unable to accept any other method than your own. We have a word for that down here.

Out of your own admission you will not be able to use your alternate entrance without finding a small child but go ahead and knock yourself out. That seems to be a $10 solution to a fifty cent problem.
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SoundGuy
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joelyn wrote:
OK, when I got up this Am i contacted my car ins. company (Geico), they also insure our trailer and explained the problem with my lock and he stated that we are covered for a locksmith to come out up to 100.00 per incident. So they contacted a locksmith in our area and they found one that would do the job for 55.00.
So 2 hours later he showed up and stuck a lock picking pick in the cylinder and popped open the lock. he said that on these FIC locks a pin inside sometimes slips making the lock think its locked and somehow will not let the key to be inserted. He stated that it happens sometimes as the lock gets older and the parts start to wear down inside.


Great that you've had your situation resolved but your locksmith's explanation is generalized at best and doesn't necessarily address the specific issue with FIC locks that are subject to recall. This fault isn't directly attributed to wear but rather is a well known failure with FIC locks manufactured between Jan 1, 2006 and Apr 30, 2013, as noted in the FIC Lock Recall ...

"Why is a recall being conducted?

Under normal use and operation, the key to the deadbolt lock can only be removed in the 12 oโ€™clock (neutral) and 3 oโ€™clock (unlocked) positions. In certain FIC locks made between January 1, 2006 and April 30, 2013, the key may be able to also be removed from the deadbolt cylinder when the key is in the 9 oโ€™clock position. This condition may cause the deadbolt to jam, which could prevent occupants inside the trailer from being able to unlock the door from the inside and exit the trailer through the door, requiring them instead to use the emergency exit and potentially increasing the risk of injury."


This recall has been in effect for some time now so anyone who owns a trailer with an FIC lock assembly can easily identify whether the locks on their particular unit are part of the recall and even though you still haven't indicated the key number for your particular failed lock my bet it's on that recall list, meaning it was only a matter of time before it failed.

I maintain that 2112's suggestion of taking a Dremel tool to a failed $30 lock to remove it, at the risk of that Dremel inadvertently slipping a destroying a $500 door, is a terrible idea. :E However, I have to also thank him as it's got me thinking even more about my own emergency entry process into our trailer should the entry door lock ever fail. Here's a pic of the pass through cargo compartment in our current trailer which is typical of most travel trailers with a front queen island bed ...



That centre piece of paneling is the same piece shown in this next pic taken from inside the trailer ...



Removing this panel from the pass through cargo compartment side would be difficult if the underbed storage area has items stored in it but if I were to instead mount that panel from the pass through cargo compartment side I'd be able to easily access that underbed storage area from the pass through to empty it and then crawl in, putting me inside the trailer. At that point I'd simply push up on the hinged portion of the bed platform to gain full entry to the interior of the trailer. Another option - since that above picture was taken I've added cabinet doors to the end of the bed platform ...



I doubt I could squeeze through one of those openings but a 10 yr old sure would, at which point that same 10 yr old could remove the screws securing the entry door lock. Considering this is such an easy and obvious solution for most to gain entry into their travel trailer in a case where the entry door lock may have failed there's not a chance I'd ever consider taking a Dremel tool or pry or anything else to the door lock. :E
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j-d
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Good Deal!!!

The locksmith's explanation sounds like your lock is covered by the recall linked a few posts back. I read the recall letter and it contains the Key Codes involved. If no Key Code (your key is a duplicate vs. an original) then there's a label inside the lock with that info.
Or... $30 or so for a new one...

Glad nothing was damaged and everybody came up clean.
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gbopp
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Thanks for the update. That's good to know.

joelyn
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UPDATE}}}}}} UPDATE}}}}}}
OK, when I got up this Am i contacted my car ins. company (Geico), they also insure our trailer and explained the problem with my lock and he stated that we are covered for a locksmith to come out up to 100.00 per incident. So they contacted a locksmith in our area and they found one that would do the job for 55.00.
So 2 hours later he showed up and stuck a lock picking pick in the cylinder and popped open the lock. he said that on these FIC locks a pin inside sometimes slips making the lock think its locked and somehow will not let the key to be inserted. He stated that it happens sometimes as the lock gets older and the parts start to wear down inside. He said it may not ever happen again but advised to replace the lock since they are fairly a cheap insurance .
So I will look for one on line and replace it this weekend.
So all in all everything worked out fine with no damage being caused to anything and best of all no cost to me.
Want to thank everyone for all the help, suggestions and advise that was offered. As usual, everyone on here is always ready to help out when ever a problem arises. This is my first place to come to to see what can be done no matter what goes wrong.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.