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Honda 2000: surprisingly poor oil fill tube design

profdant139
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Honda prides itself on being environmentally friendly. So it is odd (to say the least) that the oil fill tube on the Honda 2000 is so tricky – some spillage is almost guaranteed.

Look at this diagram, which is a screen shot taken from the owner’s manual:


Click For Full-Size Image.

On the right side, note that you have to fill the reservoir just to the upper limit of the threads in the tube. But the tube is essentially horizontal – see the left side of the diagram. So in order to fill the tube, you have to tilt the generator back with one hand, carefully pour in just enough oil (and not a drop more) with the other hand, and then slowly bring the generator back to a level position, hoping that you haven't overfilled the reservoir.

So far, I have managed to do all of this without spilling, but it was very demanding. It is a certainty that other folks (especially non-experts like me) have experienced oil spills due to this poor design.

I know that there are after-market toys that can mitigate this design flaw – things that screw into the oil tube. But this glitch was entirely foreseeable. Why didn’t they design an upright tube with a translucent fill window, for example? Didn’t they realize that the hassle factor would discourage owners from performing routine oil changes? Are other generators just as poorly designed?

(Head-shake and grumble.)
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SidecarFlip
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3 tons wrote:
Out of sync Honda definitely needs to step it up and be more inclusive to the wide variety of DIY’er’s...Oil MATTERS!!


Only if there isn't any in the crank case. Then it matters. Of course it won't start anyway, has a low oil ignition cutout. So does my Champion. So do my cheapo Harbor Freight Predator motors. Come to think about it, every small engine I own has the cutout.

Must be they know something about DIY'ers.
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Range_Maggot_Bo
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profdant139 wrote:
Honda prides itself on being environmentally friendly. So it is odd (to say the least) that the oil fill tube on the Honda 2000 is so tricky – some spillage is almost guaranteed.

Look at this diagram, which is a screen shot taken from the owner’s manual:


Click For Full-Size Image.

On the right side, note that you have to fill the reservoir just to the upper limit of the threads in the tube. But the tube is essentially horizontal – see the left side of the diagram. So in order to fill the tube, you have to tilt the generator back with one hand, carefully pour in just enough oil (and not a drop more) with the other hand, and then slowly bring the generator back to a level position, hoping that you haven't overfilled the reservoir.

So far, I have managed to do all of this without spilling, but it was very demanding. It is a certainty that other folks (especially non-experts like me) have experienced oil spills due to this poor design.



(Head-shake and grumble.)



Sure you're okay??!!??

3_tons
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Explorer III
Out of sync Honda definitely needs to step it up and be more inclusive to the wide variety of DIY’er’s...Oil MATTERS!!

rickhise
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RAS43 wrote:
NRALIFR wrote:
Make it easy on yourself and measure out the correct quantity of oil (yours is about 13.5 oz), tip the generator on it’s side and use a long neck funnel to pour it in. Put the cap on and don’t bother checking the level against the filler hole.

Your generator has a low oil level warning system on it that will shut the engine down before it reaches an unsafe level.

:):)


This!!

Ditto use a dawn dish soap bottle put a piece of duct tape even with 13.5 ounce level
funnel. I stuff a few paper towels inside the filler an case tip it over and let it drain in a towel on a flat baking dish
No need to check the level

dieseltruckdriv
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SidecarFlip wrote:
3 tons wrote:
4 pages on oil filler?? lol


Bored to tears.....:B

If you change your settings, it's only two pages. 😉
I have a lot of years, and a lot of hours on both my Hondas, and never found oil changes to be difficult.
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3_tons
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Luckly I found the ideal fix for this ubiquitous pandemic malady - I use a widely available $0.69 kitchen funnel, and pay close interactive attention to the task at hand - after many oil changes, I’ve found this method to be nearly error free...

2manytoyz
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My Yamaha and Champion generators are the same.

Here's my method:



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The blue part of the funnel is a valve. Open it only as much as needed, close it when the generator is full. No mess, no fuss.
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Cummins12V98
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Crabbypatty wrote:
Ive had an oil change "pump", since owning a boat with a v6 down below. I use it on the 2000 as well as other small motors. Start it up, warm up the oil, turn off, then suck out the oil. Putting oil back in i use a funnel and look, add some, look add some.


I just used my Fumoto valve I installed on my 350 Boat engine last year (it was a mess). Slip hose on Fumoto run thru transom and into container and open the valve = GOLDEN!!!


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SidecarFlip
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3 tons wrote:
4 pages on oil filler?? lol


Bored to tears.....:B
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Crabbypatty
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Ive had an oil change "pump", since owning a boat with a v6 down below. I use it on the 2000 as well as other small motors. Start it up, warm up the oil, turn off, then suck out the oil. Putting oil back in i use a funnel and look, add some, look add some.
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3_tons
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4 pages on oil filler?? lol

Homeless_by_Cho
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noteven wrote:
I keep my drain pan handy, pour in what looks like enough new oil, tip er back level if any overage I drain it inta the pan. I package the wasteoil forproper disposal then clean up the drain pan and sneak it back inta the kitchen.


I believe that is what God had in mind when He encouraged the design of dishwashers.

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SidecarFlip
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noteven wrote:
I keep my drain pan handy, pour in what looks like enough new oil, tip er back level if any overage I drain it inta the pan. I package the wasteoil forproper disposal then clean up the drain pan and sneak it back inta the kitchen.


I won't tell on you if you don't tell on me....lol
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noteven
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I keep my drain pan handy, pour in what looks like enough new oil, tip er back level if any overage I drain it inta the pan. I package the wasteoil forproper disposal then clean up the drain pan and sneak it back inta the kitchen.