L-16 AGM

I did get a thickness on the plates for the group 31 stuffed into a group 27 case. It is 3 mm (0.118 thousandths)

The Surrette is 3.683 mm (0.145 thousandths)

Hi,

I've been mislead on the price. It is $520 plus shipping plus tax each. I'm disappointed, to say the least.

I did speak with Surrette and there is no problem mounting them on the side--the large flat side. However mounting on the 'skinny' 7 1/4 inch side is not recommended.

They are a motive battery design so there is no problem with them being in an RV.

I will check out the price on Trojans.

I will be visiting Truewest solar probably on June 8th. I'll let the dealer decide what can be made to fit.

Hi,

Yes, my first inverter was 2500 MSW watts and the replacement for it is 3000 PSW watts.

Of those 'terrible' Wally world batteries four are 10 years old and four are 6 years old. They will still power the air conditioner--just not for very long. If I were willing to give up inverter use they would easily power the furnace and all other 12 volt loads. The solar system would put back in enough each day that I'd never have to connect to shore power.

I recently used the inverter to make lunch--which consisted of a 50 amp draw for seven minutes for the coffee, a 75 amp draw for six minutes for toast, and a 95 amp draw for 12 minutes for the induction cooker.

One nice thing about a "sunset" battery bank, is that I no longer need worry about getting to 100% state of charge. They are toast, just--very dark brown--not burnt.

I am going AGM this time around and it will either be 7 group 27 twelve volt with group 31 plates (very strange), or 4 L-16 AGM Surrette six volt jars. Either will serve me well. It just depends on what will fit. I'd still rather have 2 volt cells, if I could source some that would fit.

landyacht318 wrote:
Group 29 screams wally world battery. While 3 12v jars will be able to power a high load through an inverter longer than 2 6v batteries, the 6v GC batteries are at least a true deep cycle battery, and designed to be cycled, not a compromise.

ZIL. Not a sports car, but it had a heck of a warranty. Everything was hand made. If a door hinge squeaked or the speedometer quit, the entire Zil manufacturing department responsible, got shipped to Siberia. Emphasized camaraderie in quality control.

The 24, 27 and especially the 31 flooded RV batteries are all acid bulimic. Ten pounds of......, uh, well, you know, stuffed into a five pound sack. Blivet engineering.

Floor space is always at a premium so when more capacity is called upon, just like in a city, up, is the only option. Taller batteries.

pianotuna wrote:


My preference order is flooded 2 volt....

.....because 3 group 29 12 volt will always outperform 2 golf cart batteries.

And my preference is the Bugatti Veyron, no other sports car will do. I release flatulence in the general direction of anything else calling itself a sportscar, as i know what is best


Group 29 screams wally world battery. While 3 12v jars will be able to power a high load through an inverter longer than 2 6v batteries, the 6v GC batteries are at least a true deep cycle battery, and designed to be cycled, not a compromise.

Not just a wally world johnson controls battery with extra special marketing made as cheaply as possible.

Good luck in your search

Hi 2old,

I think he is talking about 'off the grid' solar home situations. As you are well aware, sulfation happens rather quickly and unless the bank can be fully charged there will be permanent loss of capacity.

The over-charge scenario I guess would be someone trying to operate without a charge controller by direct connecting from the panels to the battery bank.

2oldman wrote:
From the Truewest site:
Note: Your battery bank must be carefully sized for your system. Too small a battery bank risks overcharging and can destroy your batteries. A battery bank that is too large for your system will be damaged by long term undercharging

What situation are they envisioning that would prompt them to make a statement like that?

2oldman wrote:
From the Truewest site:
Note: Your battery bank must be carefully sized for your system. Too small a battery bank risks overcharging and can destroy your batteries. A battery bank that is too large for your system will be damaged by long term undercharging

What situation are they envisioning that would prompt them to make a statement like that?

Statements like this results from being totally misinformed or totally clueless about the subject

From the Truewest site:
Note: Your battery bank must be carefully sized for your system. Too small a battery bank risks overcharging and can destroy your batteries. A battery bank that is too large for your system will be damaged by long term undercharging

What situation are they envisioning that would prompt them to make a statement like that?

Not trying to rain on the parade or anything, but the only $340 battery I see here:

http://www.truewest.ca/Batteries.html

is the Surette S550 which is an L16 but not an AGM.

I think what you want is a Surette S6-460AGM which I believe is also an L16.

Don't see any AGM batteries on that True West page.

Just don't want you to order something and be disappointed ...