Lug nuts stuck

[ScottnSherrie]

Trying to get left rear duallies off to work on brakes. Using a cheater bar, I busted the truck wrench that came with the RV. I about to call a local truck place and see what they would charge to come out and just get the lug nuts loose. My other plan is to buy an indestructible lug wrench.

Suggestions welcomed.

[wa8yxm]

By all means use an IMPACT type socket, even if you use a manual breaker bar and extension.

I use a half inch Air powered impact wrench and over pressurize it to pull 450 Foot pound nuts off when I have to.. But I need a new impact socket for my RV as .. To be honest. I don't have the right size.

[j-d]

From what I hear it IS possible to Eat an Elephant. Just start with one part and work steadily.

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to learning what you find inside and how the parts match up.

[ScottnSherrie]

The new Ken-Tool truck wrench and breaker bar arrived tonight. Assistance from a 5 foot pipe and that stubborn lug nut broke loose easy. Thanks for the suggestion of using a jack stand to support the shaft of the truck wrench. That was a huge help.

Now for tough part, getting the tires off.

[ScottnSherrie]

j-d wrote:
If you haven't checked or found out yet, the Left FRONT lugs may or may not be Left-Handed thread just because the Rears are.

Thanks. I'll make sure I check it out before I take off the front left.

[cbr46]

I ordered the Craftsman 9-19984 impact wrench last night. 580 ft-lbs for $110. Hope it's enough!

Best,
- bob

[j-d]

If you haven't checked or found out yet, the Left FRONT lugs may or may not be Left-Handed thread just because the Rears are.

[ScottnSherrie]

Thanks for all the suggestions. Left side lug nuts are reverse threaded. DOH!!! The suggestion to use a jack stand to support the extension was primo.
I did get four loosened up by using a pipe wrench and 5 foot cheater bar on the end of truck wrench I broke pictured in original post then hit a wall. Broke the adjuster on the pipe wrench so got a bigger one. All I'm able to do is shave metal off the truck wrench. Guess I will have to wait for the Ken Tool truck wrench and breaker bar I ordered last night.

[Puddles]

jmanatee wrote:
To all those with stuck rims, If you loosen the lugs to where they just spin free then drive the vehicle a short distance, it will usually pop the rim loose.

X2

[rcmiller32]

Some what costly but no air or electric power is needed.

www.powerhawk.com

look for SWENCH wrenches.

1/2" drive with 500 ft lbs breaking force up to 7000 ft lbs on a 1-1/2" drive unit.

[time2roll]

My Chraftsman electric gives 350# for $110 unless you find a sale or coupon.
For rust add some PB Blaster for 24-72 hours before the gun.

[cbr46]

I have a few (almost all of them) shock bolts that my pneumatic impact won't loosen. I don't recall what kind it is (similar to a Campbell Hausfield) but knowing me when I bought it I didn't spend a lot of money on it. I'll guess a quoted 250 ft-lbs @ 90 psi.

So I'm faced with taking the moho to a truck shop and giving them my green or buying a better tool for the job. I hate being beaten, I'm leaning the latter.

I looked at the Harbor-Freight electric varieties. I don't think 230 ft-lbs will do the job, especially when ALL the specs I'm looking at are best case scenarios.

Milwaukee Electric seem to be overpriced for the ft-lbs they deliver. 300 ft-lbs @ $179

DeWalt DW292 / DW293 electrics have 345 ft-lb in a price point I can sit down with, barely. $139 Amazon

Craftsman 9-19984 pneumatic is quoting 580 ft-lbs (I hope that's at 90 psi) on Amazon for $110. I'm guessing that's enough for any frozen bolt.

Ingersoll-Rand 2135TiMAX pneumatic is porking out at 750 ft-lbs. The price porks out too at $259. Might do more damage than good with this one?

Also, the wheel lugs seem to be a loose fit for 7/8" socket (2002 Ford F53 chassis). Could these be metric?

Electric impact would be more convenient. For $30 less I get 235 more ft-lbs of torque and more confidence in getting the job done. I just need to haul the compressor from the basement.

1 1/8" socket, don't know the bolt size without crawling back under. Is 580 ft-lbs enough for rusted suspension bolts?

Best,
- bob

[msiminoff]

If you still haven't been able to loosen those lug nuts, get yourself a decent impact socket, a breaker bar, and some AeroKroil!
I have never had a stuck fastener (including old exhaust header studs) that this stuff didn't work on.
-Mark

[mikestock]

j-d wrote:
Negative! You need to have the wheels off. The calipers are trapped within the dish of the inner dual. Besides, you could have a flat or other emergency later and need to change a tire. Slay this dragon now!

So true. The last flat I had was in the desert, 30 miles south of Las Vegas. Temperature was 100+. Would not have wanted to deal with stuck lug nuts. I am a true believer in torquing the nuts according to mfg. specs, and checking regularly.

[j-d]

Negative! You need to have the wheels off. The calipers are trapped within the dish of the inner dual. Besides, you could have a flat or other emergency later and need to change a tire. Slay this dragon now!