Hello all...Recently picked up 1st Class A, a 2017 Newmar Ventana LE, and now getting around to researching Satellite & TV options, but there's literally everything I probably need to learn, and so, here I am, asking the experts. I also have a Winegard Trav'ler, with 2 cable ports.In the exterior power cord compartment is a cable hookup. On the opposite side, another, paired with an HDMI port.Inside, in a cabinet above the bedroom TV, is another cable connection port. There may also be a port above the cockpit, but I haven't looked for it. I've also watched TV using the rooftop antenna (free), and understand how to tap into that via tv settings, and channel search.I'm soon to obtain service at home from Dish, and as many already know, cheaply add service to my RV. My query relates to a few things I'm just not clear on...If cable is available at a typical RV park, do I have access to cable tv, via the existing cable wiring, and using the external port, or will I require a cable box -a Wally - to access service? If the proper source is chosen from the TV menu, is that all there is to it?In order to watch the bedroom TV, will I need a separate "Wally" for access to the park's cable? I assume if I subscribe to Dish, they'll provide one for home, but not sure about a second, when I request service to the RV.Will I be able to watch two different channels with two TV's, running one cable to the outside port in the power cable compartment? Or will I be required to use both ports on the satellite antenna, running one cable through an as yet unidentified point of access, say, to the bedroom TV?Knowing as little as I do, are there more questions I should also have the answers to?Thank you all for your guidance!Michael

We had Direct TV for 5 or more years and the first 4 years were great then they started to up the price each season we would had it turned on. It started out at $29 for the season and it got up to $79 for the last season that's when we stopped the service. The auto ant. is still sitting on the RV but we never turn it on now.We can camp without a Tv, but it was nice for the weather when we were on no the road.

Our Winnebago has 2 outside jacks, one marked satellite, the other cable. In a compartment above the driver was the other end of the satellite line as well as a HDMI connection that is wired to the TV. There was also a satellite connection cable buried under the roof skin and measurements were furnished in the manual as to where to bore a hole to get at it for a roof mounted antenna. When I put the dish on the roof, I had to pull the jack in the compartment to switch the cable to connect the roof line to the jack (rather than the run to the outside connection) Our last RV had a manual roof mounted dish and when we got our new coach I opted to use our new Tailgater as a portable to 'dodge trees' for a while. After a few months, I just mounted it on the roof as I found I was climbing up there to set the dish on the roof anyway to dodge bushes. I found it was a wash as to whether having it portable was a plus or minus. Tailgater antennas have 2 output jacks that require 2 cables if you want to use two boxes. The problem I've seen with coach TV wiring is that the cable circuit really will not work with satellite as for satellite, you must have a straight run between the dish and the box. Any type of splitter keeps the system from working and the splitters are usually inacessibly buried in the wall somewhere. Being able to make a direct cable run for satellite bedroom TV is a real problem on most coaches. The cable connection should let you run all your TVs off cable (after setting the TV menu to cable). That said, for cable, you generally have to be sure the over-the-air antenna amplifier is turned off (usually a wall plate with a small pin button and light) and for over-the-air reception, the amplifier on and the TV menu set to antenna. We are not that technically inclined and found that we never used the additional features on our home DISH box (DVR, etc.) so ended up returning it and just moving the 211z back and forth in our home and RV. Saved $7 a month and the remote operation is now consistent in the house and RV. I can only speak from experience of buying my system outright (Tailgater and 211Z).

Also, our Winnebago has one of these to transfer HDMI from the compartment over the driver (where the box lives) to the living area TV. HDMI does not carry much more than 12 feet so for longer runs you need these. The Winnebago also has an infrared "repeater" that has a lens by the TV that "sees" the remote signal and transfers it to an emitter in the compartment where the sat box lives (the 211z does not have the RF remote the Wallys do). To watch different shows on different TVs using satellite, you do need 2 satellite boxes. I do not know if you can split an HDMI signal like cable TV and the small boxes I have seen only have 1 HDMI port. In any event, getting satellite to a bedroom TV is a real challenge as you either have to use a device like this (and find a way to run the wire) or find a way to get a direct run of coax between the box and the dish (to put the box by the TV).https://www.ebay.com/itm/1080P-3D-HDMI-to-RJ45-Network-Extender-Over-Single-Cable-Cat6-6A-7-Ethernet-IR/253260863104?epid=4008013192&hash=item3af7861680:g:nnAAAOSwuLRZyPQl

Don't confuse the satellite TV receiver (Wally) with anything having to do with cable. For campground cable you just connect a length of coax from the campground power pole connection to the RV input cable connection (not the ones in the bays where a TV is expected to be). You then turn OFF the OTA TV antenna power supply (small wall plate with push button or slide switch and a tiny light) and this allows cable to go to the TV's instead of OTA. Change the TV input from Antenna to Cable and do a new channel scan.The satellite TV and your Pathway X2 cannot use the same cable input connection without some wiring modifications so how that setup works will be a separate discussion. Has someone ever used satellite TV in that RV?

Bill, no, was a brand new RV for me, Turning off the OTA (what's that?) TV antenna power supply is new to me, no idea where that's at, but will investigate that... materials I received with RV don't speak to setting up the tv's, cable, satellite, cable box, etc., etc... having to learn this on my own, and much is a mystery, so thanks for your help!

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obiwancanoli
Explorer
May 18, 2018
Dutch, the link shows the antenna I have had installed.
djousma
Explorer
May 18, 2018
Dutch_12078 wrote:
djousma wrote:
One other comment about Dish(and Directv) and the Winegard Traveler. That satellite dish is a single satellite dish. meaning it can only receive a signal from one of dish satellites at one time. Dish programming comes in on 2 or 3 satellites. If you have two "wally's" connected, the primary one is what controls the dish position based on the channel selected to watch. the secondary wally will be at the mercy of the primary, in that the secondary can only tune into channels that are available on the satellite that the dish is currently tuned into. Even if the primary is not being watched, the secondary cannot command the dish to move to the other satellites.

The only way around this is to install this type of dish: Linky

That is RV portable, but when deployed works like home dish and can receive all dish satellites at one time.

The Dish version of the Winegard Trav'ler (SK-1000) is an automated RV mounted Dish residential 1000.2 triple LNB dish and receives all three western arc sats at once. It works quite well with all Dish receivers, including the latest Hopper3. The SK-1000 is what your link shows.

Dutch,

You are right. I was mistaking it for the lesser Carryout/Playmaker/Pathway series. I'm going to go ahead and remove my post, so as not to confuse the OP.
Dutch_12078
Explorer II
May 18, 2018
djousma wrote:
One other comment about Dish(and Directv) and the Winegard Traveler. That satellite dish is a single satellite dish. meaning it can only receive a signal from one of dish satellites at one time. Dish programming comes in on 2 or 3 satellites. If you have two "wally's" connected, the primary one is what controls the dish position based on the channel selected to watch. the secondary wally will be at the mercy of the primary, in that the secondary can only tune into channels that are available on the satellite that the dish is currently tuned into. Even if the primary is not being watched, the secondary cannot command the dish to move to the other satellites.

The only way around this is to install this type of dish: Linky

That is RV portable, but when deployed works like home dish and can receive all dish satellites at one time.

The Dish version of the Winegard Trav'ler (SK-1000) is an automated RV mounted Dish residential 1000.2 triple LNB dish and receives all three western arc sats at once. It works quite well with all Dish receivers, including the latest Hopper3. The SK-1000 is what your link shows.
djousma
Explorer
May 18, 2018
EDIT: Removing the original content so as not to confuse, as I mistakenly though the OP's dish was the lesser single satellite dish.
TechWriter
Explorer
May 18, 2018
OP, since you have a DISH Winegard Travler, essentially the sky's the limit in terms of what you can install in your RV. By this I mean, whatever DISH equipment you install in your house, you can install in your RV.

First, you should have no problem using two Wallys in your Newmar since they apparently ran two coax connections into your RV from the Travler. This means that you can watch whatever channels you want on each Wally.

However, Wallys are at the bottom of the DISH satellite food chain -- they're only 1-tuner receivers and if you want to record on them by adding a hard drive, it's going to be limited. While many folks swear by their Wally (or 211), it's usually because a Wally is their only option because they don't have a Travler.

I don't know what you plan to install in your house, but I would hope it would be a 16-tuner Hopper 3 unless you don't watch much TV.

If you do install a Hopper 3, then you could use it in your Newmar when you go camping . . . with some mods. The first would be running a 3rd coax into your RV from your Travler (since Newmar didn't), but new RV owners are usually hesitant above doing stuff like this.
Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
May 18, 2018
Good job!
obiwancanoli
Explorer
May 17, 2018
As an update, I thought I'd post the fact that the WInegard Trav'ler I purchased (replaced the X2 in the initial post, and edited that, too), as of today, the Trav'ler is now installed, and connected to all three satellites.

I thought it useful, considering my very novice initial questions about this, to post the fact that the installer had requested I contact Newmar for a few answers to questions the installer asked, such as, is the rig pre-wired for satellite? YES. Wired with splitter for the two TV's in the rig? YES, and there's a pull-through wire to help with guiding the coax for connection.

I also obtained from Newmar a wiring diagram, along with a rendering of "Typical Satellite Prep" showing location of the plate access, the conduit for the coax, and a diagram showing the path of the coax. Installer said it was very helpful to have, noting this made the install process much easier. Will pick it up tomorrow, and finish whatever is needed to connect to Dish, then should be good to go... thanks again to all for your patience and guidance!
obiwancanoli
Explorer
Apr 03, 2018
Pardon my references to cable and using Wally... Satellite would require two Wally's in order to watch 2 different programs at the same time... I get it now... thanks...

I also easily found the wall plate and switch with light that one must change in order to move from OTA to cable... I'm getting it, slow but sure, thanks!
Bill_Satellite
Explorer II
Apr 03, 2018
obiwancanoli wrote:
OK, Bill, here they are...

If cable is available at a typical RV park, do I have access to cable tv, via the existing cable wiring, and using the external port, or will I require a cable box -a Wally - to access service? If the proper source is chosen from the TV menu, is that all there is to it?

YES, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. AS I MENTIONED, THE WALLY IS A SATELLITE TV RECEIVER.

In order to watch the bedroom TV, will I need a separate "Wally" for access to the park's cable? I assume if I subscribe to Dish, they'll provide one for home, but not sure about a second, when I request service to the RV.

NO RECEIVERS OF ANY KIND REQUIRED FOR PARK CABLE. IF YOU SUBSCRIBE TO DISH TV YOU WILL GET RECEIVERS TO USE AT HOME. HAVE THEM INSTALL A WALLY (NOT STANDARD WITH A HOME INSTALLATION THESE DAYS) TO USE IN THE RV. IF YOU NEED TO WATCH 2 DIFFERENT CHANNELS ON 2 DIFFERENT TV'S YOU WILL NEED 2 WALLY'S. IF YOU JUST WANT TO WATCH TV ON BOTH AT DIFFERENT TIMES YOU CAN DO THAT WITH JUST ONE BUT SOME WIRING MODIFICATIONS MAY BE NECESSARY.

Will I be able to watch two different channels with two TV's, running one cable to the outside port in the power cable compartment? Or will I be required to use both ports on the satellite antenna, running one cable through an as yet unidentified point of access, say, to the bedroom TV?

CABLE, NO RESTRICTIONS ON WHO WATCHES WHAT. FOR SATELLITE TV, SEE ABOVE.

Knowing as little as I do, are there more questions I should also have the answers to?

YES.

Thank you all for your guidance!

Michael
obiwancanoli
Explorer
Apr 03, 2018
OK, Bill, here they are...

If cable is available at a typical RV park, do I have access to cable tv, via the existing cable wiring, and using the external port, or will I require a cable box -a Wally - to access service? If the proper source is chosen from the TV menu, is that all there is to it?

In order to watch the bedroom TV, will I need a separate "Wally" for access to the park's cable? I assume if I subscribe to Dish, they'll provide one for home, but not sure about a second, when I request service to the RV.

Will I be able to watch two different channels with two TV's, running one cable to the outside port in the power cable compartment? Or will I be required to use both ports on the satellite antenna, running one cable through an as yet unidentified point of access, say, to the bedroom TV?

Knowing as little as I do, are there more questions I should also have the answers to?

Thank you all for your guidance!

Michael

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