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- MEXICOWANDERERExplorerTRICKLE CHARGER yet another battery related BUZZWORD
The first trickle chargers appeared many decades ago. They were LABELED and called trickle chargers.
They "tickled" the battery with a constant tiny uncontrolled charge.
And boiled thousands dry.
And got a deserved bad reputation.
Today...
Battery maintenance chargers are called FLOAT chargers
Which is a more accurate description of newer chargers that actually do not overfeed a battery to death. - Dave_H_MExplorer IIUmmmm, Dennis, You used a word i disagree with in your Tender post. I say "trickle chargers" they are not.
I got three of them going in the barn at this moment with 3 green lights showing.
One thing i don't hesitate to do for the winter is park the two lawn mowers side by side and jump one batt to the other one. The Tender junior keeps both of them in good shape. Nice to hit the key in the spring and crank it right up. - MEXICOWANDERERExplorerExcellent. I'll invest in thirty-two foot ladders.
The only way to discourage illegals, is to force companies to demand proper ID proving the legality of hiring. Illegal hire...ten thousand dollars. Illegal employment? Do like they do down here -- seize everything they own and put them on the bus for the border.
Fact is, I really don't care to have Mil-Spec traceability in every atom of every component. Panasonic for instance makes better capacitors in Japan than any but Mil-Spec US companies. US companies make better quality transformer laminations than anyone else and Phelps Dodge wire varies bare microns in a 10,000 foot roll.
Electro Switch makes the best switch and Intermatic makes the best mechanical timer. TI transistors and Ic's are superior but I can give a ratz pattootie if resistors comes from India or Iceland. As long as they do the job.
The OBJECT is to buy something that isn't Chew & Spit. To sand and mask off a really old charger to freshen it with a new coat of paint warms my heart. The Borg has outlasted many Chinese chargers, and when I go back and update the internals it will last longer than me.
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Being I am away from home, I couldn't superlative test the Lifeline. Yesterday at Francisco's place I used a ship's power unit with the 31 at 12.2 volts and guess what...?
Three ammeters verified the battery took inrush amperage of 273 yes TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY THREE AMPERES to saturate voltage charge to 14.46 volts. It maintained 250+ amperes for the ten minutes under the exercise. Upon disconnect the terminal posts were cool.
So, it's time to start recalculating battery charging elapsed times. I had a feeling the low impedance would make the Lifeline different than other batteries, but here, I am 1700 miles distant from my machinery.
So that 100/80 charger is going to work like it is designed to charging a pair of 8-D Lifelines.
Before someone gets ALL wound up over this, I suggest reading the Lifeline manual -- the part where it says the Lifeline can accept FIVE TIMES It's Amp Hour Rating in initial charging amperes. 105 amp hours, 525 amps. The 8-D Lifelines are in the neighborhood of 225 amp hours. To saturate charge a pair of them would tax my Kubota.
Meanwhile back at the Ranch, I have 4 90 lb unused 9 volt center tap 18 volt phase to phase transformers back home sealed in cosmoline. Going to be interesting to diddy-bop with plating rectifiers and another snap-action Electro Switch. Too many amps for an Intermatic timer -- Will have to connect it to a contactor. - Kayteg1Explorer II
GordonThree wrote:
How dare they!
Somebody call Donald, he'll sort this out.
Can I take it as pledge for taller border walls? - GordonThreeExplorer
Kayteg1 wrote:
Even if it is made in USA, that can have several different meanings.
I am building swimming pool in Las Vegas. Signed contract with white Americans contractors.
They hire subcontractors for each specific job.
About 90% of those subcontractors are Mexican, about 1/2 barely speaks English.
We let them using our bathroom and one of them left used toilet paper in our trash can - suppose common procedure with Mexican septic.
STINKS !
How dare they!
Somebody call Donald, he'll sort this out. - Kayteg1Explorer IIEven if it is made in USA, that can have several different meanings.
I am building swimming pool in Las Vegas. Signed contract with white Americans contractors.
They hire subcontractors for each specific job.
About 90% of those subcontractors are Mexican, about 1/2 barely speaks English.
We let them using our bathroom and one of them left used toilet paper in our trash can - suppose common procedure with Mexican septic.
STINKS ! - theoldwizard1Explorer IIThose battery chargers are probably the ONLY "assembled" in the USA chargers on the market. I would bet that that most of the major components are also "made in the USA". With their volume, they could easily be winding their own transformers (pretty easy if you are using E I laminations).
- Dennis12ExplorerBattery Tender 021-0123 Battery Tender Junior 12V, 0.75A Battery Charger
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It will charge and maintain your battery so that it is ready to go when you are! It's lightweight, fully automatic and easy to use - MEXICOWANDERERExplorerknown to the state of California...
Failed lawyers only know how to lie and overbill.
"Hey Dooey, I wanna get this bill passed that was presented to me by my biggest PAC...I mean, a concerned-citizens group. You still got that list of expert witnesses who wanna buy a future get-out-of-jail card, or some zoning change influence? I just had a fortuitous cancellation of guest speaker at a Global Warming conference in Chicago" - Kayteg1Explorer II
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There is a reason why they don't show back side as you would find "Made in.... ???"
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Good luck with that.
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