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- Cummins12V98Explorer III
BenK wrote:
Most of the wear is from extended off time, where the oil film drips off of surfaces
As long as whatever oil used has enough film strength for that start...it won't be dry start
Today's dino oil is much better than just a couple of decades ago...when folks who cared and/or knew installed pre-oiler systems before synthetics were the norm
Just IMO...
Dino oil has plenty of synthetic materials to meet the API requirements. - BenKExplorerMost of the wear is from extended off time, where the oil film drips off of surfaces
As long as whatever oil used has enough film strength for that start...it won't be dry start
Today's dino oil is much better than just a couple of decades ago...when folks who cared and/or knew installed pre-oiler systems before synthetics were the norm
Just IMO... - ppineExplorer IIThe owner of the Ram truck mentioned diesel quality motor oil.
- valhalla360Navigator
pnichols wrote:
colliehauler wrote:
valhalla360 wrote:
Most engine wear is the start/stops and moisture build up from short trips. On another forum a V-10 in a airport shuttle that run almost continuously was reported to have gone 900k miles.
Long continuous runs are the best for getting lots of miles out of an engine.
For your typical user, a million miles would be 40-60yrs, so not particularly relevant.
.... And I'll bet that shuttle V10 spent a lot of hours idling, too.
So ... why do I read so much in the forums that "it's not good for an engine to be idled"?
(Recently I've started partially charging my RV batteries every other day or so when drycamping by merely idling the V10 for about an hour. The alternator dumps a lot of current into the batteries during that short time and the V10 can hardly be heard or felt at idle.)
Most airport shuttle vans don't start, just sit idling for an hour then shut down. Do it occasionally while camping, I wouldn't expect a noticeable impact on engine longevity. Do it all the time with only rare days actually putting the engine under load and it may be different.
Shuttle vans sit idling for a few minutes (10-15 tops) and then are driving with higher power output. That higher power output helps get the engine fully up to temperature and it never fully cools while idling. Plus there is always oil pumping thru the system.
It's a bigger deal in diesels. They are incredibly efficient at idle burning almost no fuel. No fuel, no heat, so the engines never really warm up if you just idle. Once you get them on the road even lightly loaded with gentle acceleration, you are dumping a lot more heat into the engine block and it quickly comes up to temperature.
This is why the modern recommendation for winter starts is to give the engine 15-30 seconds to get oil moving thru the system but then start driving with moderate acceleration until the engine warms up. - TravelinDogExplorer II
larry barnhart wrote:
regular oil must be good enough. Nice story.
chevman
Yes it is. Just think of how many billions of miles truckers had already logged before the advent of synthetic oils. - pnicholsExplorer II
colliehauler wrote:
valhalla360 wrote:
Most engine wear is the start/stops and moisture build up from short trips. On another forum a V-10 in a airport shuttle that run almost continuously was reported to have gone 900k miles.
Long continuous runs are the best for getting lots of miles out of an engine.
For your typical user, a million miles would be 40-60yrs, so not particularly relevant.
.... And I'll bet that shuttle V10 spent a lot of hours idling, too.
So ... why do I read so much in the forums that "it's not good for an engine to be idled"?
(Recently I've started partially charging my RV batteries every other day or so when drycamping by merely idling the V10 for about an hour. The alternator dumps a lot of current into the batteries during that short time and the V10 can hardly be heard or felt at idle.) - Cummins12V98Explorer III"All of you that change your oil and fuel filters at 3,5 or 7 thousand miles need to take note of when he changes his oil."
His truck requires 7,500 mile oil changes. Reality when towing and running solo for long distances these numbers can easily be increased. - larry_barnhartExplorerregular oil must be good enough. Nice story.
chevman Me Again wrote:
Are log book and other things like hours of driving negated in a solo/empty return run?
Nope.
I had to log my hours from the time I dropped off a rig at the dealer until I got back to my home base (running empty).
You could do some time off (unlogged days) and call it a vacation at or near point A but you still have to account for the time it takes you to movefrom the drop location (point A) to return to your home base (point B), or to the next pick up location (point B), otherwise your logbook will raise a red flag.Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Anybody know why there is no commercial hauling numbers or lettering on the side of this thing?
Magnetic signs are probably what he uses. That's what most RV trasnporters use when they are working for a transport company.
That's what I used.
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