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otrfun
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Dec 24, 2014

2015 F150 Pics

Saw this 2015 F150 Platinum 4x2 at a nearby dealership. $55k MSRP. 17/24 EPA. Tapped the sheet metal on some 2014's and this 2015. Noticed the tone was distinctly lower on the 2015--sounded more solid, like it had more mass to it. Woulda checked out the door jam payload sticker, but the dealership was closed today.



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  • jerem0621's avatar
    jerem0621
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    Dec 29, 2014
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    Kampfirekid wrote:
    Wow! Quite the picture thread! ;)


    I went to our local dealership yesterday specifically to get pics and test out the truck. They told me that they haven't got one but one is in transit.

    Hopefully this week I will be able to check one out in person.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
  • FishOnOne's avatar
    FishOnOne
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    Dec 26, 2014
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    jerem0621 wrote:
    Bionic Man wrote:
    starjumper wrote:
    Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


    How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.


    I personally do not know a single person who has paid MSRP for any new vehicle. Most people have some kind of discount through insurance, work, memberships.. etc etc etc.

    While still very expensive many people get 5-10k off MSRP relatively easily. Not everyone I am sure, but many do.

    Being a new model and only a few being available I am sure that these trucks will not see 10k discounts for 6-8 months.. but just like every other brand out there.. eventually you will see this 5-10 k off MSRP for these trucks too.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah


    With internet sales now being common, you can simply look up a vehicles selling price on just about every vehicle on the lot on any dealers web site in which is always lower than the MSRP. In my case I wanted to purchase the wife's new Edge from a local dealer, but they were $900 higher than another dealer on the exact same vehicle, so when talking to the salesman at my preferred dealer, I referred him to this other dealers lower price so they simply matched it.
  • hone_eagle's avatar
    hone_eagle
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    Dec 26, 2014
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    I understand the 2015's have $2000 on the hood already.
    They sure got ya'wl exited though.

    Like Jeremiah said 'who pays full price' ?
  • jerem0621's avatar
    jerem0621
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    Dec 26, 2014
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    Bionic Man wrote:
    starjumper wrote:
    Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


    How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.


    I personally do not know a single person who has paid MSRP for any new vehicle. Most people have some kind of discount through insurance, work, memberships.. etc etc etc.

    While still very expensive many people get 5-10k off MSRP relatively easily. Not everyone I am sure, but many do.

    Being a new model and only a few being available I am sure that these trucks will not see 10k discounts for 6-8 months.. but just like every other brand out there.. eventually you will see this 5-10 k off MSRP for these trucks too.

    Thanks!

    Jeremiah
  • FishOnOne's avatar
    FishOnOne
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    Dec 26, 2014
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    This morning I seen a brand new F150 Lariet FX4 two tone on the road and it had it's LED light's on. Let me tell you that truck looked really good.
  • dockmasterdave's avatar
    dockmasterdave
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    Dec 26, 2014
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    How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.

    X2

    Some of us use our trucks to make a living.
    I doubt, if we all refused to buy a new truck, we would still be in business when the prices dropped.
    Sounds like cutting off our noses to spite our face.
    They aren't making a killing on the truck, it's the options.
    Don't get the heated and cooled leather seats etc, and the price drops $20K.
  • Bionic_Man's avatar
    Bionic_Man
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    Dec 26, 2014
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    starjumper wrote:
    Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


    How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.
  • starjumper's avatar
    starjumper
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    Dec 26, 2014
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    Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.
  • Donnoh's avatar
    Donnoh
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    Dec 25, 2014
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    Bionic Man wrote:
    Seems to me that aluminum bodies is the wave of the future. If I were betting, I would say this will work out well for Ford, and the others will follow.


    From what I understand, car companies are lining up to reserve capacity with aluminum rolling mills. Capacity doesn't come online quickly, or cheaply, and it will take years to convert one model line to aluminum now that Ford has bought the available supply.

    It's a great time to be in the aluminum rolling business, a few years ago it sucked.

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Kampfirekid wrote:
Wow! Quite the picture thread! ;)


I went to our local dealership yesterday specifically to get pics and test out the truck. They told me that they haven't got one but one is in transit.

Hopefully this week I will be able to check one out in person.

Thanks!

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Kampfirekid wrote:
Wow! Quite the picture thread! ;)


I went to our local dealership yesterday specifically to get pics and test out the truck. They told me that they haven't got one but one is in transit.

Hopefully this week I will be able to check one out in person.

Thanks!

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jerem0621 wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
starjumper wrote:
Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.


I personally do not know a single person who has paid MSRP for any new vehicle. Most people have some kind of discount through insurance, work, memberships.. etc etc etc.

While still very expensive many people get 5-10k off MSRP relatively easily. Not everyone I am sure, but many do.

Being a new model and only a few being available I am sure that these trucks will not see 10k discounts for 6-8 months.. but just like every other brand out there.. eventually you will see this 5-10 k off MSRP for these trucks too.

Thanks!

Jeremiah


With internet sales now being common, you can simply look up a vehicles selling price on just about every vehicle on the lot on any dealers web site in which is always lower than the MSRP. In my case I wanted to purchase the wife's new Edge from a local dealer, but they were $900 higher than another dealer on the exact same vehicle, so when talking to the salesman at my preferred dealer, I referred him to this other dealers lower price so they simply matched it.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-26T11:04:32.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-26T11:04:32.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539646","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1579","rawBody":"
jerem0621 wrote:
Bionic Man wrote:
starjumper wrote:
Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.


I personally do not know a single person who has paid MSRP for any new vehicle. Most people have some kind of discount through insurance, work, memberships.. etc etc etc.

While still very expensive many people get 5-10k off MSRP relatively easily. Not everyone I am sure, but many do.

Being a new model and only a few being available I am sure that these trucks will not see 10k discounts for 6-8 months.. but just like every other brand out there.. eventually you will see this 5-10 k off MSRP for these trucks too.

Thanks!

Jeremiah


With internet sales now being common, you can simply look up a vehicles selling price on just about every vehicle on the lot on any dealers web site in which is always lower than the MSRP. In my case I wanted to purchase the wife's new Edge from a local dealer, but they were $900 higher than another dealer on the exact same vehicle, so when talking to the salesman at my preferred dealer, I referred him to this other dealers lower price so they simply matched it.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1539646_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:211678":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:211678","uid":211678,"login":"hone_eagle","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-11-18T16:08:16.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:211678"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539645":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1539645","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1539645":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:211678"},"id":"message:1539645","revisionNum":1,"uid":1539645,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1539619"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1539619"},"subject":"Re: 2015 F150 Pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539645"},"body":"I understand the 2015's have $2000 on the hood already.
They sure got ya'wl exited though.

Like Jeremiah said 'who pays full price' ?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"137","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-26T10:55:00.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-26T10:55:00.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539645","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"149","rawBody":"I understand the 2015's have $2000 on the hood already.
They sure got ya'wl exited though.

Like Jeremiah said 'who pays full price' ?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1539645_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539644":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1539644","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1539644":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2315"},"id":"message:1539644","revisionNum":1,"uid":1539644,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1539619"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1539619"},"subject":"Re: 2015 F150 Pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539644"},"body":"
Bionic Man wrote:
starjumper wrote:
Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.


I personally do not know a single person who has paid MSRP for any new vehicle. Most people have some kind of discount through insurance, work, memberships.. etc etc etc.

While still very expensive many people get 5-10k off MSRP relatively easily. Not everyone I am sure, but many do.

Being a new model and only a few being available I am sure that these trucks will not see 10k discounts for 6-8 months.. but just like every other brand out there.. eventually you will see this 5-10 k off MSRP for these trucks too.

Thanks!

Jeremiah","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-26T09:13:07.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-26T09:13:07.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539644","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1053","rawBody":"
Bionic Man wrote:
starjumper wrote:
Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.


I personally do not know a single person who has paid MSRP for any new vehicle. Most people have some kind of discount through insurance, work, memberships.. etc etc etc.

While still very expensive many people get 5-10k off MSRP relatively easily. Not everyone I am sure, but many do.

Being a new model and only a few being available I am sure that these trucks will not see 10k discounts for 6-8 months.. but just like every other brand out there.. eventually you will see this 5-10 k off MSRP for these trucks too.

Thanks!

Jeremiah","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1539644_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539643":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1539643","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1539643":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:240748"},"id":"message:1539643","revisionNum":1,"uid":1539643,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1539619"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1539619"},"subject":"Re: 2015 F150 Pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539643"},"body":"This morning I seen a brand new F150 Lariet FX4 two tone on the road and it had it's LED light's on. Let me tell you that truck looked really good.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"148","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-26T08:57:51.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-26T08:57:51.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539643","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"148","rawBody":"This morning I seen a brand new F150 Lariet FX4 two tone on the road and it had it's LED light's on. Let me tell you that truck looked really good.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1539643_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:1208":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1208","uid":1208,"login":"dockmasterdave","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-02-19T07:56:08.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-10.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1208"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539642":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1539642","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1539642":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1208"},"id":"message:1539642","revisionNum":1,"uid":1539642,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1539619"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1539619"},"subject":"Re: 2015 F150 Pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539642"},"body":"How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.

X2

Some of us use our trucks to make a living.
I doubt, if we all refused to buy a new truck, we would still be in business when the prices dropped.
Sounds like cutting off our noses to spite our face.
They aren't making a killing on the truck, it's the options.
Don't get the heated and cooled leather seats etc, and the price drops $20K.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-26T08:46:10.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-26T08:46:10.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539642","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"494","rawBody":"How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.

X2

Some of us use our trucks to make a living.
I doubt, if we all refused to buy a new truck, we would still be in business when the prices dropped.
Sounds like cutting off our noses to spite our face.
They aren't making a killing on the truck, it's the options.
Don't get the heated and cooled leather seats etc, and the price drops $20K.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1539642_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539641":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1539641","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1539641":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:52110"},"id":"message:1539641","revisionNum":1,"uid":1539641,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1539619"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1539619"},"subject":"Re: 2015 F150 Pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539641"},"body":"
starjumper wrote:
Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-26T08:29:13.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-26T08:29:13.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539641","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"410","rawBody":"
starjumper wrote:
Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.


How exactly are they overpriced if people continue to buy them? The market sets the price, not the manufacture.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1539641_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:263766":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:263766","uid":263766,"login":"starjumper","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-06-21T17:18:02.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-11.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:263766"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539640":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1539640","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1539640":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:263766"},"id":"message:1539640","revisionNum":1,"uid":1539640,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:TravelTrailerforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1539619"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1539619"},"subject":"Re: 2015 F150 Pics","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1539640"},"body":"Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. Tired of being stuck by all these companies that overprice everything from smartphones to pick up trucks.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-26T07:36:30.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-26T07:36:30.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539640","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"238","rawBody":"Maybe it is time we refuse to pay these outlandish prices for a pickup truck!! A half ton truck for over $55,000 is just ridiculous. 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Bionic Man wrote:
Seems to me that aluminum bodies is the wave of the future. If I were betting, I would say this will work out well for Ford, and the others will follow.


From what I understand, car companies are lining up to reserve capacity with aluminum rolling mills. Capacity doesn't come online quickly, or cheaply, and it will take years to convert one model line to aluminum now that Ford has bought the available supply.

It's a great time to be in the aluminum rolling business, a few years ago it sucked.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2014-12-25T12:40:44.000-08:00","lastPublishTime":"2014-12-25T12:40:44.000-08:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":237},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:TravelTrailer/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:TravelTrailerforum-board/message:1539619/message:1539639","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"567","rawBody":"
Bionic Man wrote:
Seems to me that aluminum bodies is the wave of the future. If I were betting, I would say this will work out well for Ford, and the others will follow.


From what I understand, car companies are lining up to reserve capacity with aluminum rolling mills. Capacity doesn't come online quickly, or cheaply, and it will take years to convert one model line to aluminum now that Ford has bought the available supply.

It's a great time to be in the aluminum rolling business, a few years ago it sucked.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:1539639_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/community/NavbarDropdownToggle-1741694506000","value":{"ariaLabelClosed":"Press the down arrow to open the menu"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/EscalatedMessageBanner-1741694506000","value":{"escalationMessage":"Escalated to Salesforce by {username} on {date}","viewDetails":"View Details","modalTitle":"Case Details","escalatedBy":"Escalated by: ","escalatedOn":"Escalated on: ","caseNumber":"Case Number: ","status":"Status: ","lastUpdateDate":"Last Update: ","automaticEscalation":"automatic escalation","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/users/UserLink-1741694506000","value":{"authorName":"View Profile: {author}","anonymous":"Anonymous"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-shared/client/components/users/UserRank-1741694506000","value":{"rankName":"{rankName}","userRank":"Author rank {rankName}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageTime-1741694506000","value":{"postTime":"Published: {time}","lastPublishTime":"Last Update: {time}","conversation.lastPostingActivityTime":"Last posting activity time: {time}","conversation.lastPostTime":"Last post time: {time}","moderationData.rejectTime":"Rejected time: {time}"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSolvedBadge-1741694506000","value":{"solved":"Solved"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageSubject-1741694506000","value":{"noSubject":"(no subject)"},"localOverride":false},"CachedAsset:text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000":{"__typename":"CachedAsset","id":"text:en_US-components/messages/MessageBody-1741694506000","value":{"showMessageBody":"Show More","mentionsErrorTitle":"{mentionsType, select, board {Board} user {User} message {Message} other {}} No Longer Available","mentionsErrorMessage":"The {mentionsType} you are trying to view has been removed from the community.","videoProcessing":"Video is being processed. 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