2016 Titan XD Cummins- TFL

otrfun wrote:
A year or so ago many on rv.net professed the Ecodiesel as DOA due to payload, weight, price, and various tow tests.

Deja vu?

Really depends upon your trailer's tongue weight and how much you like diesel.

For sure they both make for great boat haulers where people are often towing at 5-10% TW.

Personally, I like diesel's low rpm HP and torque, and mileage having cruised all over with a 2005 Passat TDI and 2500# tent trailer. But my current trailer has over 1200# TW, and we carry lots of stuff to Florida, so I need at least 2000# payload.

I didn't really think the EcoDiesel would work given the RAM 1500's typical low payloads. But Nissan was/is advertising that the XD is something more than a half-ton, so we assumed something like an F150 with HD Payload. Nope, payloads are nowhere near that. Thus the greater disappointment.

The only way it is different than a typical half-ton is that it's heavier, for better or worse, and has a 5L Cummins diesel. At least with the diesel it's mileage won't be as bad as it'll be with the 5.6L gas V8 they'll also be offering.

There are advantages to heavier trucks: stronger components, the Titan XD drive train is heftier than the F150 HD Payload truck to support all the low rpm diesel torque; the frame might be stronger as it comes from the NV 2500/3500 vans; a heavier truck can be pushed around less by a heavy trailer (but how heavy a TT can you pull with low payloads?); a heavier truck might be safer in a collision with an Elk (got this from another forum).

Anyway, I'm still waiting for the KingCab numbers. Maybe those will look better, and we're interested in shorter trucks anyway.