2017 dually vs mid 2000 dually comparisons?

Slowmover wrote:
110HP that only exists on paper. Computer keeps things dialed back. HP is a lot of noise and heat, for the most part.

The 4500/5500 series trucks actually have to work for a living. Power ratings are more realistic estimates of available, use-able power. Long life matters.

Not so on today's toy pickemups. Those owners can't resist useless options.

Besides, HP with a diesel isn't the thing. It's the available TQ curve that matters. And I'd bet its impressively flat on the heavier trucks. Revenue miles.

Have you driven both the F450/F550 Cab/chassis vs the F450 CCLB? I did before I bought.

You'll never convince me that that extra HP and TQ is only on paper. Even with the steeper gearing, the missing power was evident on the test drives. Not saying the Cab/Chassis trucks are underpowered, just that they are 'geared' towards a different purpose. Pun intended.

I'd buy the 450 pickup and put a flat bed on it, then sell the stock bed to recoup some of the cost. As noted earlier, the F450 comes with the 19.5' tires which are a bonus when towing heavy.

Oh, and my 'toy' F450 WORKS for a living, 6 days a week, rarely less than 3k lbs in the bed. Then add to that the 16k lb dump trailer 2 or 3 times a week for an average of 30k miles per year ....

And yes ...it has all those 'useless options' that make the large amount of time I spend in my truck much more enjoyable.