3/4 ton diesel vs. gas

Comparable, no, but more than good enough as long as you accept a little higher engine speeds.

You know that hill you go up now at 2000 RPM in your diesel? It will be at 5500 RPM in the gasser. If you like to hear a screaming motor, get the gasser. If you like the easy rolling diesel, pay for the repairs and drive it for another 10 years.
A friend of mine just pulled his 35 foot trailer with a diesel for the first time last week. His first comment when he arrived at the campground was, it didn't even work coming up the hill. This is a man that has always modded his exhaust to get the loud V-8 sound. He said "No more screaming motor and stopping for fuel every 150 miles."

APT wrote:
Comparable, no, but more than good enough as long as you accept a little higher engine speeds.

Concur !

You need feedback from Ford SuperDuty owners with the 7.3L gasser !

contemplating trading for a 3/4 ton gasser
If you are contemplating trading because you are having repair issues what leads you to believe gassers don't break down?
What kind of problems are you having with your diesel?

There is no comparison in the towing performance of a diesel vs. gasser.
Diesel will always be superior when it comes to towing.

The deisels will have more power. The gas one will do fine. I think anything newer would be good. Your truck is 10 years old. They have all come a long way since then.

schlep1967 wrote:
You know that hill you go up now at 2000 RPM in your diesel? It will be at 5500 RPM in the gasser. If you like to hear a screaming motor, get the gasser.

Really? Just finished a 7 month loop of the US including time in the Rockies and the Appalachians.

We are pulling around 7500lb with a 2008 V10. Never saw over 3000rpm up hill and only touched 3500rpm a couple times on steep downhills (usually never got above 3000rpm on downhills). It's all quite sedate.

I suppose I could have forced it into 1st gear and floored it on level ground to get up to 5500rpm...but why?

As others have stated, it's different from a diesel but the modern gas engines have plenty of power for the load you are talking about.

Really with the cost per gallon negating the fuel savings benefits of diesel, it more an more is about do you need that extra power. I'd say it's up around 12-15k where you can start to justify needing it.

A diesel gets 300 ponies in the 2000 rpm range. Gas needs 4000. Yet new ones are quite, both versions. My new to me 2014 GM 1500 with a 4.3 V6, pulls as well as my BB gas engines from the 80-90 time frame.
Unless your over 6-8000 ft elevation most of the time, a forced inducted motor be it gas or diesel will pull your trailer fine.
I would bet a Ford 150 with an Eco boast in the highest over rating will be more than up to the task with 350-400 ponies and iirc 400+ lb ft of torque. Especially here in salish sea area of Washington.

Marty

schlep1967 wrote:
You know that hill you go up now at 2000 RPM in your diesel? It will be at 5500 RPM in the gasser. If you like to hear a screaming motor, get the gasser. If you like the easy rolling diesel, pay for the repairs and drive it for another 10 years.
A friend of mine just pulled his 35 foot trailer with a diesel for the first time last week. His first comment when he arrived at the campground was, it didn't even work coming up the hill. This is a man that has always modded his exhaust to get the loud V-8 sound. He said "No more screaming motor and stopping for fuel every 150 miles."

What the F? That so called "screaming" motor is working at its designed parameters. Only the uninformed would refer to a working symphony of parts working as designed as screaming.

schlep1967 wrote:
You know that hill you go up now at 2000 RPM in your diesel? It will be at 5500 RPM in the gasser. If you like to hear a screaming motor, get the gasser. If you like the easy rolling diesel, pay for the repairs and drive it for another 10 years.
A friend of mine just pulled his 35 foot trailer with a diesel for the first time last week. His first comment when he arrived at the campground was, it didn't even work coming up the hill. This is a man that has always modded his exhaust to get the loud V-8 sound. He said "No more screaming motor and stopping for fuel every 150 miles."

You need to drive/tow with a late model gas HD truck. My 6.2 gas tows my FW, plus a second trailer (another 1,500 lbs) uphill without screaming. I never need to use more than 3500 rpm, even on a 7% grade of 3.5 miles, that has several 90 degree turns while climbing. I have run it at 4000 rpm, on a steep climb just because it is quiet, and smooth running, and me being in a bit of a hurry.

The newer gassers would be a great option for the OP!

Jerry

I have towed with both gas and diesel. IMO, nothing compares to that raw, stump pulling power of a diesel. And the silly grin you become accustomed to wearing as you effortlessly cruise up long grades.

You are concerned about cost of repairs. Yes, that point is valid, but gas engines break too.

Diesels don't have the regular tune ups that gassers do. No spark plugs and other related parts to replace. I have friends in the gas guzzling department that try to convince me it costs more to maintain a diesel. I call horse puckey on that one.
Years ago it cost me $80 for an oil change, last one I did was $115. And it is always done at the stealership, not those drive in cheapo places run by incompetent monkeys. I want my truck serviced properly.
All I ever do is oil changes, fuel and air filters. Gas engines need that too.


I now have 418,000K on my Duramax. Yes, it has broke down. An injector pump at about 300K and the biggie was a head gasket at a 373K while towing through the Canadian Rockies in August of 18. That cost me a bunch to fix.

But let's say I was towing with a gasser and had the same breakdown. A head gasket in a gas engine will likely cost about the same to repair. No difference in the labor, still gotta remove a mountain of stuff to get at the heads. Perhaps a little more to fix the diesel...

In 18 I looked at the cost of replacing the truck. At that time new was around 80G for the same thing. That's a pile of money. I looked at used and I can't fathom how much used trucks go for.

I decided to fix and keep mine. It is paid for a long time ago. I figure I can put a lot of repairs into mine for the price of a new or used replacement.

Looking back now at the overall picture, I made the right decision, and I still have a diesel, inexpensive to maintain aside from a major mechanical failure.

And at 418K on it, it runs like a dream.