8 Lug Test Suburban spotted

BenK wrote:
To me, silly name change for marketing purposes...but I'm always on the
outside of most herds. At best the fringe of any herd...

My GMT400 series Suburban is a GMC Suburban. Same year had Chevy also
sell a Suburban. Had several refundable deposits for a 8.6K GVWR Sub
and most of the Chevy dealers called with a 7.4K GVWR Suburban with
no understanding that there is a difference

Found a semi-truck dealer who also sold cars for his customers to have
a one stop shopping dealer

That salesman really knew his stuff and special ordered my Sub. GMC as
GM wouldn't allow them to sell Chevy's. Just GMC (Pontiac, Buick, Olds,
Sierra, etc)

With the GMT800's, GMC's SUV Marketing ID person decided to drop the
Suburban name. To rename it a Yukon XL. To end the GMC linage for
Suburban. To me, dumb for a +$500K/year marketing person to think a
good thing.

Both 1500's and 2500's on both badges, Suburban and Yukon XL

Understand the underlaying philosophy of 'uplifting' from the lowly
Chevrolet class of buyers of the Suburban, Tahoe. Escalade, Denali,
and now Yukon

Know it works, as their demographics surveys helped them make that
decision.

Like my Highly Educated Cousin (masters) and his 3 month decision
whether the Rodeo or Passport. Told him they were the same vehicle and
made by Isuzu. He wouldn't believe me and showed me the plastic badge
differences.

Finally decided on the Honda for the sake of the Honda rep. Saying that
Isuzu is an upstart and could not make a SUV as well as Honda could/can

Made no matter that the Honda was listed for more than the Isuzu. Or
that the Isuzu dealer was closer to him than the Honda dealer. Sold it
a few years ago and has constantly told me that his decision was the
better over my advice...

Anyway, the Chevy Suburban is the same vehicle as the Yukon XL, except
for the plastic badging and option mix

Wonder if GMC will also have a 2500 Yukon XL when Chevy offers this new
2500 Suburban. Same vehicle just different badging, or maybe they will
made a complete new one for GMC... :R

Name changes do make a difference when the legacy is not as good as
wished for. So new beginnings with a new name...

Not trying to defend your crazy cousin, but: did the Passport have a better warranty than the Rodeo? I vaguely recall something like that...

6.5" x 25.4 mm/in = 165.1 mm....same thing.

I would love to see them bring back the 2500 Sub with a 9200 lb GVWR! Then you could fill all 3 rows with kids and still have decent capacity for tongue weight of a nice sized trailer. I'm not sold on a diesel, but you could get a decent tow rating out of the 6.0 with an 8 speed transmission. If they could get the same power from the 6.0 as Chrysler gets from the 6.4 that would be a winner!

My 2011 Suburban 2500 has 8x165mm bolt circle. The 2011+ pickups use 8x180mm.

Correct. Those were 2010 LTZ rims. 2010 and back gm 8 lugs were standard to fit all k2500 k3500 srw

PAThwacker wrote:
8 lug gm is 8 Lug standard

It was until 2011 when GM went from 8 on 6.5 (standard 8 lug) to 8 on 180mm (7.08").

The only HD pickup to still use the "standard" lug pattern is Ram.

Are you sure the wheels on your 2004 are not 2010 wheels? The 2011 wheels will not fit a 2004.

I have 2011 2500 Silverado LTZ rims on my 2004 k2500 suburban. They also fit on my old 98 k3500 srw. 8 lug gm is 8 Lug standard

To me, silly name change for marketing purposes...but I'm always on the
outside of most herds. At best the fringe of any herd...

My GMT400 series Suburban is a GMC Suburban. Same year had Chevy also
sell a Suburban. Had several refundable deposits for a 8.6K GVWR Sub
and most of the Chevy dealers called with a 7.4K GVWR Suburban with
no understanding that there is a difference

Found a semi-truck dealer who also sold cars for his customers to have
a one stop shopping dealer

That salesman really knew his stuff and special ordered my Sub. GMC as
GM wouldn't allow them to sell Chevy's. Just GMC (Pontiac, Buick, Olds,
Sierra, etc)

With the GMT800's, GMC's SUV Marketing ID person decided to drop the
Suburban name. To rename it a Yukon XL. To end the GMC linage for
Suburban. To me, dumb for a +$500K/year marketing person to think a
good thing.

Both 1500's and 2500's on both badges, Suburban and Yukon XL

Understand the underlaying philosophy of 'uplifting' from the lowly
Chevrolet class of buyers of the Suburban, Tahoe. Escalade, Denali,
and now Yukon

Know it works, as their demographics surveys helped them make that
decision.

Like my Highly Educated Cousin (masters) and his 3 month decision
whether the Rodeo or Passport. Told him they were the same vehicle and
made by Isuzu. He wouldn't believe me and showed me the plastic badge
differences.

Finally decided on the Honda for the sake of the Honda rep. Saying that
Isuzu is an upstart and could not make a SUV as well as Honda could/can

Made no matter that the Honda was listed for more than the Isuzu. Or
that the Isuzu dealer was closer to him than the Honda dealer. Sold it
a few years ago and has constantly told me that his decision was the
better over my advice...

Anyway, the Chevy Suburban is the same vehicle as the Yukon XL, except
for the plastic badging and option mix

Wonder if GMC will also have a 2500 Yukon XL when Chevy offers this new
2500 Suburban. Same vehicle just different badging, or maybe they will
made a complete new one for GMC... :R

Name changes do make a difference when the legacy is not as good as
wished for. So new beginnings with a new name...

JN_B wrote:

BenK wrote:

'Suburban' is known world wide as to what it is and has always been
a puzzlement to me why GMC abandoned that for Yukon XL which is now
around 10 years old, IIRC

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but they still do make the suburban, and always did, side by side with the yukon xl.

GMC makes a Yukon XL, not a Suburban. He is talking about the name change from Suburban to Yukon XL.

Similar to how it's now a Ram 3500 not a Dodge Ram 3500... why change a good thing.

jerem0621 wrote:
....Note those funny lug nut caps are not production or even matching covers for those wheels. This is an 8 lug suburban.

I noticed the "non matching" hub caps too. Obviously they are there to
"hide" the 8 lug nuts.

jerem0621 wrote:

JN_B wrote:

BenK wrote:

'Suburban' is known world wide as to what it is and has always been
a puzzlement to me why GMC abandoned that for Yukon XL which is now
around 10 years old, IIRC

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but they still do make the suburban, and always did, side by side with the yukon xl.

He will probably clarify it in a bit. But he may be referring to the 3/4 ton Yukon XL.

That's what I thought also, but they made the suburban 2500 up til last year, same as the yukon xl 2500.