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72cougarxr7
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Apr 18, 2015

Aluminum siding/wood rot repair

So my 15' Prowler Lynx had an obvious roof leak by the antenna when I bought it. After I bought it and was cleaning it out it had a leak in the back corner. Upon pulling all the paneling off the back wall, and the rear section of the rh wall, the whole rh rear corner is rotten from about half way down the wall, all the way to the floor. Along the back window, where the wooden window frame used to be, there are a couple pin holes in the aluminum.
I have never removed the aluminum siding from an rv, and am not sure how to tackle this.
The leak appears to be coming in under the corner bead.

not sure if I should just try to patch the pinholes with some epoxy or something or if I should replace the section of siding.

Also looking for tips on sealing the corner bead better so this doesn't happen again.
  • Just wanted to update. I reframed from the inside. I pulled the corner moulding off, and re sealed with butyl tape and caulked with some Dicor lap sealant for extra protection.
    The back wall was only framed with 1x2, so for extra insulation and a little bit of extra strength to the wall, I am spray foaming it with cans of Great Stuff.
    I am probably 2/3 of the way through foaming the wall, hopefully next weekend I'll be hanging some new paneling!
  • 72cougarxr7 wrote:
    westend wrote:
    Most leaks will start at the roof line. When the water has intruded for awhile, and rot in the frame ensues, other siding joints will start to leak because there is no longer any frame to support the siding.
    The holes adjacent to the window frame may have been from fasteners that attached siding to the frame. If the holes are in places where a fastener could not be used to attach to frame, then you'll need to seal them. Conventional auto body fillers work well in this kind of repair.
    Corner trim that is leaking should be removed and if butyl putty tape has hardened or missing, it should be replaced. After the corner trim is fastened, seal the edges to the siding with a polymer sealer like Proflex RV.
    I restored my Starcraft from the inside, removing the interior paneling instead of removing the siding. If necessary to remove siding, it is interlocked between pieces and is installed from the top-down, unlike residential. Removal is the opposite, from the bottom-up. You'll also need to remove any corner, door, and window trim that secures the ends. I'd suggest to work on any framing from the interior, if at all possible. That takes siding removal out of the process and leaves the trailer closed to the elements while work continues.


    I think I will try to rebuild the framing from the inside.
    One question I have for you.
    How do you re-secure the tin to the new framing. Would a product like liquid nails be able to bond them together?


    Glad you got a handle on the aluminum corrosion, my take is about the same as yours. FWIW, I had a few holes in my siding and for the biggest ones, I used a piece of self-stick asphaltic window flashing (sold as Protect-All) on the inside. If I had known about Eternabond at that time, that would have been my choice. I then went to the outside and filled with conventional auto body filler. I also used this flashing over the 1" diameter holes Starcraft felt was necessary to lead through the marker light wires. :p

    The siding to frame fastening: I do some residential siding so am equipped for installation. I have a narrow crown stapler that shoots a 9/16" narrow crown staple (available in different colors). I did attach large pieces of aluminum sheet over windows I removed with conventional self tapping screws. Really, any fastener that is rated for exterior use can be used. Small head, stainless screws come to mind and there is always a need for them with an RV. You can dress the heads with a magic marker or paint and cue-tip to make it look professional. I did use a significant quantity of tubed construction adhesive but I used it between framing joints and where I reinforced some of the wood frame. I wouldn't trust it totally for holding the siding against the frame, there is too much movement involved while on the road.

    Tip: be thinking ahead to what type of insulation is going back into the walls. I chose to use extruded foam and cut each piece to friction fit the cavity. I also used foam adhesive to fill any small gaps. The result is that my trailer is quieter inside than anything you can buy. It is also easy to heat and cool.

    You can search through the restoration thread in my signature line, The Cowboy/Hilton to see how I did some of this kind of work.
  • westend wrote:
    Most leaks will start at the roof line. When the water has intruded for awhile, and rot in the frame ensues, other siding joints will start to leak because there is no longer any frame to support the siding.
    The holes adjacent to the window frame may have been from fasteners that attached siding to the frame. If the holes are in places where a fastener could not be used to attach to frame, then you'll need to seal them. Conventional auto body fillers work well in this kind of repair.
    Corner trim that is leaking should be removed and if butyl putty tape has hardened or missing, it should be replaced. After the corner trim is fastened, seal the edges to the siding with a polymer sealer like Proflex RV.
    I restored my Starcraft from the inside, removing the interior paneling instead of removing the siding. If necessary to remove siding, it is interlocked between pieces and is installed from the top-down, unlike residential. Removal is the opposite, from the bottom-up. You'll also need to remove any corner, door, and window trim that secures the ends. I'd suggest to work on any framing from the interior, if at all possible. That takes siding removal out of the process and leaves the trailer closed to the elements while work continues.


    I think I will try to rebuild the framing from the inside.
    One question I have for you.
    How do you re-secure the tin to the new framing. Would a product like liquid nails be able to bond them together?
  • ScottG wrote:
    72cougarxr7 wrote:
    The pin hole is right in the middle of the panel, it is not a staple or nail/screw hole. The back side of the aluminum appears to have corroded through from all the excess moisture. They are 2 small pin holes, but i am concerned the corrosion will keep popping through.


    Our last TT had a spot like that. It looked like acid was eating its way through from the back side. It had no leaks in that area.
    It never got worse and no other spots ever appeared.


    sounds like a similar issue that I have.
    I suspect, in my case, it was due to some steel screws or staples that were making contact with the aluminum. With dis-similar metals, and a moisture problem, it is a recipe for corrosion.
  • I just had an idea! I have some marine primer for aluminum. It is an anti corrosive coating primer. If i wire brush the corroded areas and prime them, I should be able to fill the pin holes with epoxy. The primer should prevent any future corrosion from coming back, and the pinholes are so tiny the epoxy should provide a good repair.
    Then I can reframe from the inside, and reseal my corner bead and i should have a good permanent repair.
  • 72cougarxr7 wrote:
    The pin hole is right in the middle of the panel, it is not a staple or nail/screw hole. The back side of the aluminum appears to have corroded through from all the excess moisture. They are 2 small pin holes, but i am concerned the corrosion will keep popping through.


    Our last TT had a spot like that. It looked like acid was eating its way through from the back side. It had no leaks in that area.
    It never got worse and no other spots ever appeared.
  • Cost is a factor as well. I have no idea what aluminum rv siding costs or a good source to buy it.
  • The pin hole is right in the middle of the panel, it is not a staple or nail/screw hole. The back side of the aluminum appears to have corroded through from all the excess moisture. They are 2 small pin holes, but i am concerned the corrosion will keep popping through.
  • Google or a you tube is always one of the best ways to find out how the pros do just about anything.

    Aluminum siding comes off at the bottom and work your way up. Re install's from the top down.

    Pin holes in the outer side skin ?? I either replace the skin or put a dab of sealant (for vertical application) in the hole depending on location and the size of the hole.

    Use a self leveling sealant for resealing the roof. Or for a hole on the roof Eternabond works best IMO.

    Sealing a corner ?? I remove all the old sealant thats loose and reseal with any of the many RV sealants made for vertical surfaces such as Proflex or Dicor or Sikaflex or Proseal/etc. Other folks have their favorite RV sealant for vertical surfaces.
    I wouldn't use a 100 percent pure silicone product as they don't bond like a good RV lap sealant.

    Whatever product you choose go to their website and follow ""their"" instructions. Many also have a you tube along with the instructions.

    If you need new skins check out these folks http://www.macsaluminum.com/
    in Broken Arrow, OK.
    I've used them when I had my repair business many years ago. Good folks and they've been around for a while.
  • Most leaks will start at the roof line. When the water has intruded for awhile, and rot in the frame ensues, other siding joints will start to leak because there is no longer any frame to support the siding.
    The holes adjacent to the window frame may have been from fasteners that attached siding to the frame. If the holes are in places where a fastener could not be used to attach to frame, then you'll need to seal them. Conventional auto body fillers work well in this kind of repair.
    Corner trim that is leaking should be removed and if butyl putty tape has hardened or missing, it should be replaced. After the corner trim is fastened, seal the edges to the siding with a polymer sealer like Proflex RV.
    I restored my Starcraft from the inside, removing the interior paneling instead of removing the siding. If necessary to remove siding, it is interlocked between pieces and is installed from the top-down, unlike residential. Removal is the opposite, from the bottom-up. You'll also need to remove any corner, door, and window trim that secures the ends. I'd suggest to work on any framing from the interior, if at all possible. That takes siding removal out of the process and leaves the trailer closed to the elements while work continues.