Does anyone make a TT like this?

[Empty_Nest__Soo]

We’ve been looking at buying a Class A motorhome, mostly in order to get dual pane windows, better insulation and enclosed belly, better kitchen space, and easier setup.

I’ve recently noticed a couple of threads regarding better-insulated TT’s, and I’ve gotten to wondering if there may be a TT made that would be a sufficient upgrade from our current one, rather than taking the plunge to a Class A.

Current TT has:
Good-sized tanks for water – fresh = 60 gal., gray = 40, black = 40
Decent ground clearance – 14-inch tires
Good bedroom storage – 6 drawers, plus overhead above bed, plus built-in hamper, and
Half-ton towable

The things our current TT lacks, and motivate our search for an upgrade are:
Dual pane windows,
Respectable kitchen counter and storage space, and
Enclosed tanks/belly.

Ideal floor plan would be in the neighborhood of 24 to 28 feet much like the one we have, except more kitchen counter and storage space

Bedroom storage must be drawers. Hanging locker space or overhead cubbies are much less useful for us.

We do not value sofa or TV. I realize these are often standard on anything over 20 feet, but a bonus for any designs without them.

U-shaped dinette is unacceptable.

Must be available in the eastern US.

Any designs like that out there? Suggestions appreciated.

(A fifth wheel would probably be easier to find with these, but I won't go there because 1) I don't want a HD truck again due to the harsh ride and my arthritis, and 2) I don't want to give up the cap on my truck.)

Wayne

[Doug33]

Interestingly we went the opposite direction with our new TT, because we wanted a sofa (no place to comfortably sit in the previous TT) and a permanent TV that I don't have to store and set up each time. I also don't prefer drawers as they can be inefficient with space. I prefer the wardrobe and cabinets above the bed in the master bedroom. Like in a hotel, I don't like unpacking my suitcase and using the chest of drawers in the room. The two drawers in our kitched are useful. I have had the drawers fall out during transit in our previous TT, which caused all kinds of problems when the drawer slide rail bent and then broke away from the cabinet wall, requiring a tricky repair for me.

[thomasmnile]

Goldstalker wrote:
Look at something like this.

http://www.wagnersrv.com/newinventory.php?s=i&item=2863

Boy looks like there is more "me too" in RV floorplans than creativity, though everyone has the same limitations with available space in a given model. The interior of that North Trail is nearly identical to the WhiteHawk 27DSRL. And I'm sure that is identical to someone else's floorplan.............

[APT]

Rear kitchen may be good for you.

Outdoors RV Creekside 23RK
Artic Fox 25P, 25W
Lance 2385
Keystone Outback 272RK

[Goldstalker]

Look at something like this.

http://www.wagnersrv.com/newinventory.php?s=i&item=2863

[Empty_Nest__Soo]

I’ve been to several big RV shows. I think most TTs are designed for families with children and they need at least 2 TVs and plenty of space so the children can play inside on rainy days. I get the impression that no one designs TTs with just a couple like us in mind. The latter seems to be addressed by the Class A designers.

I’m willing to go longer on a TT, so long as I can tow it with a half-ton truck.

The current TT, a Pioneer 19T4, has a box 20-feet long. I cannot imagine a reason why someone could not make a TT that has a box, 4-, 8-, or even 12-feet longer that had a similar layout and used the extra space for a better kitchen, rather than using it for a sofa (or two,) plus a couple of recliners, plus a couple of huge TVs, and maybe an electric fireplace.

For example: Creek Side 26RLS – GVWR 8200 pounds, dry hitch weight 710 pounds. http://www.outdoorsrvmfg.com/creekside/model.php?id=131 Seems well-insulated and dual pane glass is available. I wouldn’t hesitate to tow this, but . . . The last 6-feet or so in the back is, to me, wasted space that could be better used for a nice pantry and a little more counter space. For that matter, it wouldn’t bother me to lose a couple of feet at the back, make the slide only the dinette, and make the back wall kitchen counter and pantry. At lease lose either the sofa or the recliners and make better kitchen space.

As it is, that design has far less storage, in both kitchen and bedroom, than our current entry-level TT that is 6 feet shorter. Also, from what I can see, there is not a single drawer in the bedroom, and except for the overheads 100% of the wardrobe space appears to be hanging lockers.

So, I’m satisfied that what I want could be done. Maybe no one has chosen to do it in a TT.

Wayne

[thomasmnile]

mark5w wrote:
go to the Hershey RV show in September and look around.

That's a good idea. As the first response to the OP suggests, the size range they desire sort of limits the other features and amenities they want. We have a WhiteHawk 27DSRL, the overall trailer length is 30'11" but the actual box is 27'. limited kitchen counter space, no drawer storage in the bedroom (tight bedroom, period). Think a feature like that may be hard to come by in a trailer 24-28'. I have seen a model of the Jayco Eagle that contains a lot of what the OP would like, especially a wardrobe slide in the bedroom, but that model is like 36'long with a nearly 1000 lb dry tongue weight, and a GVWR of 9900 lbs. Not something that would lend itself well to a half ton truck.

[Nomad-1]

You might want to look at "bigfootrv.com" which are winterized and are available for up to 25'. They are manufactured in in B.C. Canada and have dealers in the US. Quality is unmatched.

[mark5w]

go to the Hershey RV show in September and look around.

[wannavolunteerF]

I know you want drawers for clothes, etc, but I solved that issue (lack of storage for folded clothes) by using the hanging closet organizer with shelf. They are inexpensive, extremely easy to install and come in several sizes. I have two in my large wardrobe.. one for towels since the bath is just across the hallway... and a narrower one for shoes. I also have one in the two cabinets on either side of the bed.. work great for PJ's, shorts, swimsuits, and other clothes that you woud likely put in a drawer in S&B. I do have 2 drawers in wardrobe, that I use for underwear. Makes the trailer that I love the rest of the floorplan and could afford much more useable.

[the_bear_II]

Many of the manufacturers will let you make changes on a factory ordered TT. Things like no sofa, TV, more counter space and I bet add dual pane windows. Of course this all comes with a price tag.

[WoodGlue]

A nice well insulated, heated enclosed underbellies, dual pane windows, are all available with any of the Lance Travel Trailers. They can all be had with a Lance 4 season package:

Lance Trailer Finder

They're not entry level trailers $$ wise.

WoodGlue

[twins89]

You are asking for a lot. The problem is the larger tanks usually go with a larger rig = more weight. The other issue is if you want a four season rig, that also adds weight. I would look at Open Range and see if they meet your specs. Northwood manufacturing with Artic Fox or Nash build four season but they are hard to find east of the Mississippi. Goo luck. Let me know what you decide.